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Offline Puma44

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New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« on: September 03, 2016, 12:31:12 AM »
After about 5-10 minutes from log in and with normal sound thru the speakers, everything coming through the speakers is in slow motion with a garbled echoing metallic sound.  Voices are very hard to distinguish.  To get rid of this condition, I have to log out, restart the computer, and log back in. Sound is normal for 5-10 minutes and then the same issue presents itself.  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance!  :salute



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Offline Chalenge

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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2016, 03:20:32 AM »
Need a DXdiag to provide any help.
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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2016, 09:25:27 AM »
As Chalenge said, a DXdiag output would be very useful.

An educated guess is it might be either heat related or a failing power supply.

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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2016, 09:27:08 AM »
puma do you hear a hiss coming out of the speakers when playing music?  if so, that is your power suply going out.


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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2016, 10:27:46 AM »
Is this in game? AH2 or AH3? ....normal web browsing? Its all in the details!

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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2016, 07:12:47 PM »
puma do you hear a hiss coming out of the speakers when playing music?  if so, that is your power suply going out.

Actually, this sounds like he has sounds set to 5.1 and is listening in stereo, but a DXdiag would help more.
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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2016, 09:40:56 PM »
Here's the first section of the DXDIAG, full version is attached:
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System Information
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      Time of this report: 9/5/2016, 07:22:46
             Machine name: ATHOME
         Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release.160802-1857)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: Dell Inc
             System Model: XPS 630i
                     BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
                Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9650  @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM
                Page File: 2129MB used, 8107MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: 10.1
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Not Available
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9440)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
        Device Type: Full Device
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_05021002&REV_00
     Display Memory: 4853 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 1013 MB
      Shared Memory: 3840 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
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      Monitor Model: 27MP65
         Monitor Id: GSM5A5F
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
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Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1129 (English)
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        DDI Version: 10.1
     Feature Levels: 10.1,10.0,9.3,9.2,9.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Graphics Preemption: DMA
 Compute Preemption: DMA
           Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Applicable
     Power P-states: Not Applicable
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 1/13/2015 12:00:00 AM, 1094024 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
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          Vendor ID: 0x1002
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          SubSys ID: 0x05021002
        Revision ID: 0x0000
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     Rank Of Driver: 00D72001
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            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled
           MPO Caps: Not Supported
        MPO Stretch: Not Supported
    MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
        MPO Formats: Not Supported

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00441102&REV_03
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
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            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/7/2010 12:00:00 AM, 697816 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: SPDIF Out (Creative SB X-Fi)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00441102&REV_03
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1348 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/7/2010 12:00:00 AM, 697816 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Output Device (HDMI) (Creative SB X-Fi)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00441102&REV_03
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1348 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/7/2010 12:00:00 AM, 697816 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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This problem only occurs while in game, AH2.  I'm setup with a 5.1 speaker system.  No hissing while playing music.  This never occurred before upgrading to Windows 10.  I did upgrade the drivers as suggested in a previous post.  This afternoon, I played for nearly and hour before the "slow motion, garbled" sound started.  The only way to get rid of it is to log out and restart the computer.  Thanks for the help gents!   :salute



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Offline Chalenge

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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2016, 10:27:39 PM »
The date on your audio files is still showing 2010. Those are not likely to interface well with W10, but maybe. . .

Which X-Fi are you using?
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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 10:00:48 PM »
Creative SB X-FI.  I looked in the sound setup for the drivers to update them.  The "update drivers" button is greyed out/non selectable.

Qualifier:  I know just enough about the interior of a computer to get in trouble.  So, I very much appreciate the observation and help from those of you who are tech savvy IT experts. 

Thanks!   :salute



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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 10:13:06 PM »
Well, I want to help, but I need a better ID on that sound card. X-Fi comes in several flavors. X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro, XtremeGamer, XtremeLive, HD, Platinum, Titanium, and others.

I have a Titanium on one of my systems (an archived product according to Creative) and its driver is dated 7 Mar 2014.

You can find a complete list here:

http://support.creative.com/Products/product_list.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster#

If your card truly is a plain-Jane X-Fi, then it is at the end of its service life and there will not be an official driver for it.
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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2016, 10:24:28 PM »
Update:  found the device manager, searched online for new sound drivers.  Response was that the drivers are the most up to date.



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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 01:22:01 AM »
Well, I want to help, but I need a better ID on that sound card. X-Fi comes in several flavors. X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro, XtremeGamer, XtremeLive, HD, Platinum, Titanium, and others.

I have a Titanium on one of my systems (an archived product according to Creative) and its driver is dated 7 Mar 2014.

You can find a complete list here:

http://support.creative.com/Products/product_list.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster#

If your card truly is a plain-Jane X-Fi, then it is at the end of its service life and there will not be an official driver for it.

I appreciate your help, Challenge.  I'm out of town until Friday and will look again when I get home.  My system is several years old and your analysis may be spot on.  Thanks again! :salute



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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 01:47:31 AM »
Well, I don't see any interfering audio devices, so I don't know where else to look. I was hoping someone else might chime in, or Skuzzy would return.

If no one else has anything the only thing I know to suggest is a newer audio card. You see, the DirectSound acceleration method changed under Windows 8, 8.1, and 10, so I think that's the culprit. Worse, it doesn't play well with earlier AMD CPUs or video cards (I can't remember which). I'm just not that familiar with the CPUs or video cards either one, so I'm not much help with your Radeon. I know your CPU quite well, because I ran one for a long time.
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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 12:37:38 PM »
Thanks Challenge!  I appreciate the help.  I'm also hoping someone else has an idea.  I'm the guy who "doesn't know what he doesn't know" with this level of expertise.   



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Re: New post W10 upgrade sound issue
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 12:50:15 PM »
If you can, try to get a known good power supply for testing. Your local builder shop might be kind enough to lend or hire one if you look like you'd buy a new one from them.