Ghosts of the Ostfront

[Oldman731]

The vast majority of German troops captured by Russians died in Siberian prison camps

Now I'm scratching my head, trying to remember what happened to the millions of Soviet soldiers the Nazis captured in 1941...

Oldman

[zack1234]

Your missing the gist of the thread.

The West is bad and Hitler was right.

Ex soviet block countries equate being third world countries due to the Russian influence.

[FLOOB]

When I was a child in school they served milk in individual cartons. Later I would learn that Hitler drank milk. I don't know if this practice goes on nowadays.

[zack1234]

He had one spud 

[Delirium]

Thank you very much for the link the Ostfront podcast. I have truly enjoyed it!

Does anyone else have any shows that are worth listening to? I listen to the ones available for free on Spotify and Amazon currently, so I wouldn't be much help.

[FLOOB]

The ricky gervais show on youtube.

[Rich46yo]

Believe me what people do to people even here in America would turn most peoples stomachs.

[GScholz]

Believe me what people do to people even here in America would turn most peoples stomachs.

I read about Jack Garcia in the news the other day. Just one of countless horror stories in our so called civilized world.

[Bear76]

I have been triggered

You should be medicated

[zack1234]

Your a SJW

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The vast majority of German troops captured by Russians died in Siberian prison camps. 

15% is not a vast majority

German POW in Russia: 2 388 443
Released: 2 031 743 
Died in captivity: 356 700

[Devil 505]

15% is not a vast majority

German POW in Russia: 2 388 443
Released: 2 031 743 
Died in captivity: 356 700

But how many would have survived had the Soviets released the German POW's in a timely manner?

[DaveBB]

15% is not a vast majority

German POW in Russia: 2 388 443
Released: 2 031 743 
Died in captivity: 356 700

Those are Soviet figures and highly disputed.  Just one minute of searching brought up this

The West German government set up a Commission headed by Erich Maschke to investigate the fate of German POW in the war, in its report of 1974 they found that 3,060,000 [16] German military personnel were taken prisoner by the USSR and that 1,094,250 died in captivity ( 549,360 from 1941-April 1945; 542,911 from May 1945 to June 1950 and 1,979 from July 1950 to 1955) [17] According to German historian Rüdiger Overmans ca. 3,000,000 POW were taken by the USSR, he put the "maximum" number of German POW deaths in Soviet hands at 1.0 million.[5] Based on his research, Overmans believes that the deaths of 363,000 POWs in Soviet captivity can be confirmed be the files of Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt), in addition he maintains that it seems entirely plausible, while not provable, that 700,000 German military personnel listed as missing actually died in Soviet custody.[4]

I'm inclined to believe the West German Commission.

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.. the Soviets were no better in treating some of their own people from the Soviet villages/towns they liberated.

Yep. The keyword here is some

Some who joined HilfsPolizei,  Schutzmannschaft or even SS units could expect pretty tough meeting with NKVD. Hilfswilligens also were not welcomed.

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Those are Soviet figures and highly disputed. 

These figures are taken from archives which are revealed nowdays. They are most accurate numbers you can get.

I'm inclined to believe the West German Commission.

This is a joke. Their numbers are rough estimation of what they "believe".  In Russia it is called "sucked from a finger".

"in addition he maintains that it seems entirely plausible, while not provable, that 700,000 German military personnel listed as missing actually died in Soviet custody"

Quite scientific approach. Huh ? I believe that these 700,000 missing simply died on battlefields mostly in 1944-1945. So what.