JUST DO IT

[The Fugitive]

Maybe you misunderstand.  There are folks currently playing that have a system that will not run AH3.  I am one of those people.  Without AH2, those who need it to play will not contribute to the revenue stream.  I am motivated to play AH3 and I will, just not quite yet.  In the mean time, I, and others like me will happily pay our subscription, continue to enjoy what we have even with low numbers, and be motivated to join AH3 more so than if we cannot play at all.

I understand fully, but your looking at it from the side where your just a bit screwed. Look at it from a business side. If better graphics and game play bring in and extra 30% of new players and they lose 10% of the old players it is still a 20% gain. Plus eventually, like you they get a couple percent of those old players back eventually it is a win.

Keeping the old version available hurts the new version and they are after all out to make money, not keep old timers happy.

Sorry to say, EVERYONE knew this day was going to come. They have been talking about it for two years. If you had put $15 aside every week for the last two years you'd have enough to buy a $1200 system and that is with out adding in the interest you could have earned.

Time to move on. Sorry to see some of you leave (we need everyone we can get), but Im looking forward to making new friends and enemies.

[Zoney]

Keeping the old version available hurts the new version and they are after all out to make money, not keep old timers happy.

Thank you for your opinion, but you have absolutely no idea if it is true.  If it is true, and I trust HiTech to know this, and only him, then fine, HE will shut it down.

Shutting down AH2 will not make me upgrade sooner. I will do it when I can.  My point is, AH2 is up and running and besides the server use costs next to nothing in my opinion to keep up.

If you are worried about brand new players making the mistake of downloading the new game and being disappointed the solution would be simple, give them a message that tells them AH3 is available, and if they have a system that can handle it, they will download the new version instead.

Keeping this "old timer" happy still brings some money in and I guarantee I am not the only one.

I've always loved this game and the way HiTech runs it and his company.  I'm damn glad it isn't yours.

One last thing just to be clear.  I will absolutely not cancel my subscription even if I am not playing.  Playing or not Dale, I am still your customer.  Do what is best for the game,

[Shuffler]

So unbelievable that there are folks spending money on a game when they can't afford it. Makes me wonder if they play and we pay for their food and rent.... Public dole.

To have so much time to save for a 75 buck video card and just fail to plan.

[Zoney]

So unbelievable that there are folks spending money on a game when they can't afford it. Makes me wonder if they play and we pay for their food and rent.... Public dole.

To have so much time to save for a 75 buck video card and just fail to plan.

Sir, whom are you speaking to?

[Ack-Ack]

So unbelievable that there are folks spending money on a game when they can't afford it. Makes me wonder if they play and we pay for their food and rent.... Public dole.

To have so much time to save for a 75 buck video card and just fail to plan.

For some upgrading a computer is a pricey affair, not that they can't afford to pay the monthly subscription.

[popeye]

Although I have upgraded my vid card, I found AH3 was quite playable with the old card and all the eye candy turned off.  In fact, it looked a lot like AH2.
It might not cost much to upgrade to AH2 level graphics in AH3.

[DH367th]

Its sounds good to keep AH2 open but it is not. I say this out of experience warbirds did just that a few years ago it was an EPIC fail that they never recovered from.

[The Fugitive]

Thank you for your opinion, but you have absolutely no idea if it is true.  If it is true, and I trust HiTech to know this, and only him, then fine, HE will shut it down.

Shutting down AH2 will not make me upgrade sooner. I will do it when I can.  My point is, AH2 is up and running and besides the server use costs next to nothing in my opinion to keep up.

If you are worried about brand new players making the mistake of downloading the new game and being disappointed the solution would be simple, give them a message that tells them AH3 is available, and if they have a system that can handle it, they will download the new version instead.

Keeping this "old timer" happy still brings some money in and I guarantee I am not the only one.

I've always loved this game and the way HiTech runs it and his company.  I'm damn glad it isn't yours.

One last thing just to be clear.  I will absolutely not cancel my subscription even if I am not playing.  Playing or not Dale, I am still your customer.  Do what is best for the game,

It was posted that Hitech said they hope go live this coming week. It just makes sense.... business wise to close AH2. The old out with the old, in with the new! type of thing. Hitech posted that when they go live with AH3 they will close down AH2 when they first brought out .9. With the infl that they are shooting for a release this week it looks like AH2 is done.

[Invictus84]

Maybe you misunderstand.  There are folks currently playing that have a system that will not run AH3.  I am one of those people.  Without AH2, those who need it to play will not contribute to the revenue stream.  I am motivated to play AH3 and I will, just not quite yet.  In the mean time, I, and others like me will happily pay our subscription, continue to enjoy what we have even with low numbers, and be motivated to join AH3 more so than if we cannot play at all.

I understand your concern and viewpoint.  That said, I struggle to understand how any halfway modern PC can't run AHIII with decent framerates.  I realize many of you only play AHII so the graphical updates to AHIII look spectacular and high tech, but AHIII is nowhere near what is considered  cutting edge these days.

[The Fugitive]

I understand your concern and viewpoint.  That said, I struggle to understand how any halfway modern PC can't run AHIII with decent framerates.  I realize many of you only play AHII so the graphical updates to AHIII look spectacular and high tech, but AHIII is nowhere near what is considered  cutting edge these days.

AH is a much fuller game than those others that have the eye candy that is lacking here. I've watched your streams of that other game and Im not all that impressed. Messing with dials, searching forever for contacts. engaging the contacts only to lose them in the sky/sea, or get shot up in a HO.

AH has also been living on its much better game. The graphics were old for a long time and no one needed to update their machines. I think too many believed the new game was still way down the road. Thank fully, that is not the case. We need new blood and it looks like the game will finally change to a a newer version with graphics that will rival those other games. Hopefully those players will migrate over here for the much better game.

[Crash Orange]

I understand your concern and viewpoint.  That said, I struggle to understand how any halfway modern PC can't run AHIII with decent framerates.  I realize many of you only play AHII so the graphical updates to AHIII look spectacular and high tech, but AHIII is nowhere near what is considered  cutting edge these days.

A lot of us don't play any other new or recent games besides AH and have no need for gaming rigs, even low-end ones. Most of the other games I play are relatively obscure strategy games that are almost like board wargames on PC and don't push the processor or graphics anywhere near modern standards. I had to upgrade my video card for AH3, none of my other games required it. It was a relatively cheap and easy upgrade, though. But nothing with an integrated video card on the motherboard is going to play AH3.

[Silent6]

Sir, whom are you speaking to?

guilty conscience ? His point is solid. Its about to be the 4th quarter of 2016 and the game in its current form is circa 2006. Its been time and I even decided to hang it up until the update is made. For everyone here who has played the game for any extended period of time to even cry over having to make some updates to hardware is ridiculous. you should all know by now the best thing for this game and this community is to stay ahead of the curve and try to have a game that is up-to-date. it's bad enough as it is we are a cult following when you think about all the other stuff out there so let's all do our best and upgrade our machines so we can play our game with its updates. (Even with these "updates" AH3 is still going to behind the times from a graphical standpoint so enough already.

[Silent6]

AH is a much fuller game than those others that have the eye candy that is lacking here. I've watched your streams of that other game and Im not all that impressed. Messing with dials, searching forever for contacts. engaging the contacts only to lose them in the sky/sea, or get shot up in a HO.

AH has also been living on its much better game. The graphics were old for a long time and no one needed to update their machines. I think too many believed the new game was still way down the road. Thank fully, that is not the case. We need new blood and it looks like the game will finally change to a a newer version with graphics that will rival those other games. Hopefully those players will migrate over here for the much better game.

I agree, its too bad that quite a few people who will look at the new version will think its a old game lol. I really hope I am wrong, I loved this game 10 years ago that was probably the peak of the customer base.

[Invictus84]

AH is a much fuller game than those others that have the eye candy that is lacking here. I've watched your streams of that other game and Im not all that impressed. Messing with dials, searching forever for contacts. engaging the contacts only to lose them in the sky/sea, or get shot up in a HO.

AH has also been living on its much better game. The graphics were old for a long time and no one needed to update their machines. I think too many believed the new game was still way down the road. Thank fully, that is not the case. We need new blood and it looks like the game will finally change to a a newer version with graphics that will rival those other games. Hopefully those players will migrate over here for the much better game.

You are joking, right? 

There is a reason why those games have high system requirements, and it is not just the eye candy.  The flight models are far more complex, and while not perfect all of them certainly reflect flight and combat conditions far, far better than Aces High.  One regular viewer of my stream called AH "sim light" and I tend to agree with that assessment. That isn't to say AH is not fun, but in the end it is at best gamey, maybe even more so than War Thunder.  I also think that is the crux to the question why many AH players never branch out: those other games are too complex and not gamey enough. 

[puller]

You are joking, right? 

There is a reason why those games have high system requirements, and it is not just the eye candy.  The flight models are far more complex, and while not perfect all of them certainly reflect flight and combat conditions far, far better than Aces High.  One regular viewer of my stream called AH "sim light" and I tend to agree with that assessment. That isn't to say AH is not fun, but in the end it is at best gamey, maybe even more so than War Thunder.  I also think that is the crux to the question why many AH players never branch out: those other games are too complex and not gamey enough.