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Offline bustr

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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2016, 04:05:12 PM »
Did HTC give out the original figures for the first list the Trainers have or, did they have to test every plane in the game with a stop watch? Now that Hitech fixed WEP, it would be nice if he gave us a definitive data sheet to quell all of this confusion.
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2016, 04:17:39 PM »
Did HTC give out the original figures for the first list the Trainers have or, did they have to test every plane in the game with a stop watch? Now that Hitech fixed WEP, it would be nice if he gave us a definitive data sheet to quell all of this confusion.

And it would be nice to put the hammer down on planes with renewable weps in that if you don't watch your gauges then a high temp failure would occur.  Kind of a check and balance to planes with wep limited times.

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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2016, 06:29:19 PM »
Prolly user error. I searched for wep cycle by hitech within the past 100 days and it pulled up the thread.

"WEP Hitech" doesn't show it

I looked at all his posts.  Never saw it.
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2016, 06:38:20 PM »
Did HTC give out the original figures for the first list the Trainers have or, did they have to test every plane in the game with a stop watch? Now that Hitech fixed WEP, it would be nice if he gave us a definitive data sheet to quell all of this confusion.

+1 need to know wep cycles on all planes  :aok
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2016, 05:33:40 AM »
"WEP Hitech" doesn't show it

I looked at all his posts.  Never saw it.

Were you using advanced search? Im having no problems finding the post.
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2016, 07:19:13 AM »
Were you using advanced search? Im having no problems finding the post.

Let me try that.  I only used basic. 

Thanks for the pointer. 
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2016, 07:03:31 PM »
I did a test in TA last night in the FW190A5,it gave me 2 times 10 mins of wep. I had to cool engine for 20 mins to get the second 10 mins of wep, just as the wiki says! After that I cooled the engine for another full 20 mins and I couldnt get wep no matter what,all that happened was the temp went to max temp when wep cuts out.

  So I landed and rearmed,shut down engne and let it cool to 40 C,well below operating temps and then started up and tried to engage wep,all it did was increase temp again. flew around for another 10 to 20 mins trying to engage wep to no avail!

  Now I havent tested any others but I suspect I will find the same,except for the lengths of time. Unless you do multiple rearms I dont think it will make much difference as most planes dont have the flight time to do more than 1 or 2 recharge times!


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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2016, 07:41:33 PM »
I did a test in TA last night in the FW190A5,it gave me 2 times 10 mins of wep. I had to cool engine for 20 mins to get the second 10 mins of wep, just as the wiki says! After that I cooled the engine for another full 20 mins and I couldnt get wep no matter what,all that happened was the temp went to max temp when wep cuts out.

  So I landed and rearmed,shut down engne and let it cool to 40 C,well below operating temps and then started up and tried to engage wep,all it did was increase temp again. flew around for another 10 to 20 mins trying to engage wep to no avail!

  Now I havent tested any others but I suspect I will find the same,except for the lengths of time. Unless you do multiple rearms I dont think it will make much difference as most planes dont have the flight time to do more than 1 or 2 recharge times!


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If wep is indeed now a consumable then it should fully regain usage time with a rearm.
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2016, 09:02:46 PM »
P47 stats and info.  Great read.

P47 had a 30gal. water tank for water injection.  I guess when that was gone so might the wep.  Introduced on the C model.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=76

I have a pilots manual for the B,C,D and G models.  As far as I looked I saw no info on WEP mentioned.
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2016, 02:04:47 AM »
I did a test in TA last night in the FW190A5,it gave me 2 times 10 mins of wep. I had to cool engine for 20 mins to get the second 10 mins of wep, just as the wiki says! After that I cooled the engine for another full 20 mins and I couldnt get wep no matter what,all that happened was the temp went to max temp when wep cuts out.

  So I landed and rearmed,shut down engne and let it cool to 40 C,well below operating temps and then started up and tried to engage wep,all it did was increase temp again. flew around for another 10 to 20 mins trying to engage wep to no avail!

  Now I havent tested any others but I suspect I will find the same,except for the lengths of time. Unless you do multiple rearms I dont think it will make much difference as most planes dont have the flight time to do more than 1 or 2 recharge times!


   YMMV!


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Seems legit based on what ive read, the 190 had enough MW50 for two 10 min WEP-cycles.
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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2016, 11:09:21 PM »
The Fw190A-5 didn't use MW50. It used a higher engine setting with increased direct fuel injection. It should NOT be a consumable any more than the actual gas in the fuel cells.

I'm all for Hitech making WEP additives finite and require you to re-arm, but I think it SHOULD rearm, and he shouldn't limit WEP on planes that did NOT have any kind of additive involved. If the plane in question's WEP limits were heat based, let the cooldown cycle be infinitely repeatable as long as you have gas and as long as you abide by the cooldowns.

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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2016, 11:29:23 PM »
The Fw190A-5 didn't use MW50. It used a higher engine setting with increased direct fuel injection. It should NOT be a consumable any more than the actual gas in the fuel cells.

I'm all for Hitech making WEP additives finite and require you to re-arm, but I think it SHOULD rearm, and he shouldn't limit WEP on planes that did NOT have any kind of additive involved. If the plane in question's WEP limits were heat based, let the cooldown cycle be infinitely repeatable as long as you have gas and as long as you abide by the cooldowns.

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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2016, 06:29:21 AM »
+1000

But if persistent uses damages engines then that should be included in the wep model.  Real life wep models is fine with me but it just needs to cover consumables and engine damage and or loss of power.

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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2017, 02:40:50 PM »
I'm all for Hitech making WEP additives finite and require you to re-arm, but I think it SHOULD rearm, and he shouldn't limit WEP on planes that did NOT have any kind of additive involved. If the plane in question's WEP limits were heat based, let the cooldown cycle be infinitely repeatable as long as you have gas and as long as you abide by the cooldowns.

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Re: Changes to WEP/Rearm behavior
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2017, 03:25:02 PM »
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