View A/C beyond D400 or so

[Sloehand]

Graphics and the new bases are great, but I'm having some significant viewing difficulties despite having a high end system.
If I'm trailing a bandit and he gets further separation from me than around D400, I can't see enough of his actual aircraft distinctly enough to fire.  Even a bit closer the aircraft seems exceedingly small, closer still he grows super fast, and then I'm past him.
Now I compare this to AH2 in that, I kept most of my convergences at extreme distance as I could clearly see the aircraft (though small) and occasionally hit a bandit at D800, certainly at D600.  In a trailing gun solution I will fire small bursts at between D400 and D600 as I can see the actual aircraft quite clearly.
I can no longer do this in AH3.  Has anyone noticed or experienced such a change in AH3, and I wonder what might have been HiTech's reasoning if he created this difference in visual acuity.
Admittedly, being older, my eyesight is not tiptop anymore, however, I did run some comparison tests when AH2 was still up just to check myself.  Definitely, different visual clues going on.

[1stpar3]

Yup, I feel you on that one! I believe its a result of the default FOV being so much tighter in here? I have absolutely no problems seeing air or ground targets. I use a FOV of 93 though. I know a lot of players use to run a FOV in AH2 at like 120 or higher. That just may not work in 3. I am no computer whiz, so this is just a theory. Seems a logical reason though? AH2 default was FOV 106 for 1920 x 1080, and in 3 I believe for that resolution is 80. So if my theory is correct, Setting 120 in AH2(difference of 14 degrees) is about the same difference in AH3 with setting of FOV 93(difference of 13)? Any way it works for me, hope you get what I am trying to point out. The Wild Turkey is kicking in lol I am disabled a bit due to MS, with vision problems, this worked for me.

[Hajo]

Yup, I feel you on that one! I believe its a result of the default FOV being so much tighter in here? I have absolutely no problems seeing air or ground targets. I use a FOV of 93 though. I know a lot of players use to run a FOV in AH2 at like 120 or higher. That just may not work in 3. I am no computer whiz, so this is just a theory. Seems a logical reason though? AH2 default was FOV 106 for 1920 x 1080, and in 3 I believe for that resolution is 80. So if my theory is correct, Setting 120 in AH2(difference of 14 degrees) is about the same difference in AH3 with setting of FOV 93(difference of 13)? Any way it works for me, hope you get what I am trying to point out. The Wild Turkey is kicking in lol I am disabled a bit due to MS, with vision problems, this worked for me.

I agree. When I first entered AHIII the FOV set me at 92.  I have a 29" widescreen monitor that is 2560 X 1080.  I set my FOV to 120.  When it was game set I couldn't read all my instruments.  I tried to move back but couldn't.

I set my FOV to 120 and have the same view from the cockpit as I had in AHII.  Change your FOV to see if your vision becomes better or worse.

[1stpar3]

I agree. When I first entered AHIII the FOV set me at 92.  I have a 29" widescreen monitor that is 2560 X 1080.  I set my FOV to 120.  When it was game set I couldn't read all my instruments.  I tried to move back but couldn't.

I set my FOV to 120 and have the same view from the cockpit as I had in AHII.  Change your FOV to see if your vision becomes better or worse.

I made sense!? Another drink then!!! Why did your name come up as HajoHajoHajo? I know look at the one in the middle! Or is it the one on the right? lol

[Sloehand]

I have played some with the FOV when I first got into the Beta, and a little since then to get a similar all-around view as in AH2, which was an FOV of 106.  Have not played with FOV concerning this issue.  I will try some testing tomorrow, though I am not sure I would want to change my current FOV setting for SA reasons.
I definitely need a solution or the game may become impossible for me to play.  Eyes are not getting any better, though I just saw on the evening news of a breakthrough operation becoming available that with a 5 minute operation your short sightedness can be alleviated.  Unfortunately it currently costs around $3000 and is not yet covered by any insurance (read Medicare).  As I am disabled, old and way beyond being able to work for the money, it's not an option for me until it becomes a common procedure and insurance covers it.  It's quite a simple and amazing correction to the lens of your eyes.  Nearsightedness banished forever.  Yaaa!

Oh, yah, thanx very much for the input guys.  Much appreciated. 

[The Fugitive]

Anti-allisin might also also be an issue. Try running with it off to see if it sharpins things up enough.

[FLS]

I have played some with the FOV when I first got into the Beta, and a little since then to get a similar all-around view as in AH2, which was an FOV of 106.  Have not played with FOV concerning this issue.  I will try some testing tomorrow, though I am not sure I would want to change my current FOV setting for SA reasons.
I definitely need a solution or the game may become impossible for me to play.  Eyes are not getting any better, though I just saw on the evening news of a breakthrough operation becoming available that with a 5 minute operation your short sightedness can be alleviated.  Unfortunately it currently costs around $3000 and is not yet covered by any insurance (read Medicare).  As I am disabled, old and way beyond being able to work for the money, it's not an option for me until it becomes a common procedure and insurance covers it.  It's quite a simple and amazing correction to the lens of your eyes.  Nearsightedness banished forever.  Yaaa!

Oh, yah, thanx very much for the input guys.  Much appreciated. 

If you can't see the monitor clearly see your eye doctor, you may need a new prescription. To see the aircraft at a distance try zoom to make the aircraft bigger on your monitor. When you set FOV to 106 it made the aircraft smaller than it appears at 80. With the FOV at 80 everything is larger.

[hgtonyvi]

I have the same problem seeing the planes also. I have to zoom in a bit. I guess htc will work on that.

[bustr]

How we see the planes now in AH3 has been what I've been looking at chasing drones and other testers from the early closed alpha, to the end of the open beta just recently. I've been part of testing AH3 for 2 years. The light engine source makes your cons look dark until you are at an angle of them that the sun lights up a large amount of the surface you are looking at. Even on zoom in many cases.

Use zoom, map it to your joystick, this is how the new graphics engine and it's light source presents the AH3 world to us. I will leave it to Trainers like FLS to help you with FoV.

Things to turn off

1. - "For some" post lighting completely and AH3 will look like super AH2 on steroids. You may need to turn down your gamma to get rid of a white haze over every thing. This sucks the color vibrancy out of everything.

With post lighting on, turning these off will make the far cons look crisp but still dark untill you get 400 or so.
2. - Anti aliasing
3. - Environment slider to "0".
4. - Shadows
5. - Reflections

Also I get the impression the players who spent the most time in the open alpha and beta up to now, are not having getting up to speed problems with the new game. And some of them did complain a lot in that forum.

[bustr]

On average, unless the LWMA was down and everyone was in MWMA, which was 3 times I can remember in the history of the MWMA. And the recent OddCAF monday night madness which got moved to the AvA. The numbers in those arenas wouldn't push the 16 player limit with the custom arenas under the Player tab. And all of the MW arenas are available as custom arenas. I wonder if that is Hitech's answer to those two arenas now?

[The Fugitive]

I have the same problem seeing the planes also. I have to zoom in a bit. I guess htc will work on that.

I dont see Hitech changing it at all. What you people have to understand is THIS IS A NEW GAME! Things are not going to be switched back to AH2 standards. If they were why update to AH3 at all?

Learn to adapt and adjust.

[bustr]

On average, unless the LWMA was down and everyone was in MWMA, which was 3 times I can remember in the history of the MWMA. And the recent OddCAF monday night madness which got moved to the AvA. The numbers in those arenas wouldn't push the 16 player limit with the custom arenas under the Player tab. And all of the MW arenas are available as custom arenas. I wonder if that is Hitech's answer to those two arenas now?

I wondered where this post ended up. I was commenting in another post with this reply and it disappeared......

[j500ss]

I agree with what Fugi says, but the problem is some simply will not do it!   Cause it's hard, it's different, and would require time and effort.

I have had little issue with the game, and I surely do not have a 3k rig to run the game.  However I do not have Track IR, or VR.

I play on a tv, and at 1360x768 resolution.....  I can see cons, I can see targets.   Maybe I should get a real monitor, then I may see how bad things are.  As it is I don't see it.

Games evolve, or they die.  At least that has been my observation over the years.  I see it as a whole new game, that has been designed to cater to a wider audience.

[Hajo]

As Bustr stated in a previous post many of us were involved in the Alpha and Beta testing.  Once Beta got running well enough to play many of us stayed there.

The key is we got used to the new environment.  The result is that many are behind the curve.  It did feel different (the environment) simply because we were/are looking at something different!

I hear a lot that I can't hit crap and blame it on the game.  Not the games fault some people can't compute the distance and heading of their target accordingly.  D400 seems close but that is 1200 feet.

If you aim at the target at that distance unless you are on dead 6 and your target doesn't move you have a chance to hit it.  Shooting isn't as easy as one might expect.  So take your time.

Get used to the environment.  You'll be fine.  Most of us that spent time in the Beta are doing well.  You will too.  Shooting is just a small sample of one of maybe many reasons people aren't comfortable.

It's like moving into a new house.  Takes time to get comfortable.  This isn't instant gratification.

[Sloehand]

I simply love how people refuse to read something and understand what is being said.  To often in the forum people totally misconstrue the message being conveyed. 
I am thoroughly well awhere that AH3 is different from AH2, and enjoyably so, in most cases.
However, there are certain constants to be aware of in the world and this game.  One is the simple ability to be allowed, in trying to 2 dimensionally simulate a 3 dimensional world, to see clearly an enemy aircraft as an aircraft and not a near invisible dot.  Changing this can significantly impact the player base.  If you can't reasonably see the aircraft to shoot it, why play?  AH2 I think did a very good job with distance visual management.  So why change such a critical factor in AH3?  Is there a basis in reason for it?  I don't know at this point, but it sure is messing with my ability and desire to even play is game.  I will probably keep trying to get some enjoyment out of it, until I get so bored with it, I move on to something else.  FYI I'm an 11 year veteran of AH.
Overall, I was simply making the comparison of what was possible and what was not between AH2 and AH3.  I consider being able to see an actual aircraft at a reasonable distance to shoot at fairly important, or why play the game? 
When you put out a new version of a product, the tendency is to change some things for the better, and sometimes just because you can or want to, with no real justification for it. 
I know how this can happen as I worked for the Evil Empire Microsoft, or Microstupid as many of us called it, for 8 years and watched the retail side change features in their products just so they looked different to the customer, to try an justify them buying the new version.  Didn't matter if it didn't improve anything, it was new and different from the old version...  yaaaaa!
From my POV serious consideration needs to be made about the customer's ability to see targets etc. or you defeat the intent of encouraging people to play the new version of AH.  It's my only real disappointment with AH3.
Generally some of the choices made as far as visual clues in this game, in addition to the problem of seeing aircraft, are not well thought out, nor were really necessary.  They don't really improve the game, they just make it look different.  And sometimes simply make the game unnecessarily harder to play and less inviting or enjoyable.