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Offline jimbo71

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Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« on: September 30, 2016, 03:14:52 PM »
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My pc is a HP H8-1214

When I bought it, I knew I would eventually need to upgrade the graphics card.  So i put in a bigger power supply in: Corsair 700 gs

With AH3 out, the time update that GPU is now.  Bought a gigabyte gtx 960 xtreme gaming 4gb card.

Installed it and when I power up the HP splash comes up and it just hangs there.  Option on that screen to hit escape to goto startup menu.  Do that and screen goes black.

Research is telling me it's a conflict with the motherboard bios and the GPU.  Motherboard is a M3970AM-HP .  Updated bios to latest version - didn't help.

Took the PC to a computer repair place today and in the tech guy's opinion the 700 watt power supply isn't enough.  Recommended 1000 watt psu or bigger.   I find that hard to believe since the gtx calls for 400 watt minimum. 

Any input from you gurus would be appreciated because at this point I'm getting aggravated to the point of just walking away

« Last Edit: September 30, 2016, 03:17:03 PM by jimbo71 »
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2016, 03:25:48 PM »
I believe that card only needs a PSU rated at 400 watts & 20 amps.
So you should be good on your power supply.

Hope someone can get you fixed up and running.

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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 03:55:09 PM »
Another player mentioned putting a gtx 1080 is his (said his processor was the fx 6200, which should be the H8-1534) which uses the exact same motherboard except its called the Angelica on mine and Angelica 2 on his. 

Is it possible to put the Angelica 2 bios version on my M3970AM-HP ? 
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016, 05:19:30 PM »
Definitely not a power supply issue. It's a HP issue.
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016, 07:27:07 PM »
Definitely not a power supply issue. It's a HP issue.

Could be but did you go to Invidia and install the card specific drivers?
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016, 08:24:52 PM »
I don't know if this will help you or not, but I had a similar experience with an ASUS MB and a AMD 9800 iirc.
My work around was to use a $10 pci to VGA video card and install the AMD driver, then remove the pci card and install the AMD card. I was forced to do this every time I reinstalled Win7. Perhaps this suggests a comparable work around for you.

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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 09:07:02 PM »
its a UEFI bios issue.. you have to find a card that has a switch like this one http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2755310/dual-uefi-legacy-bios-video-cards.html

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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 10:37:49 PM »
its a UEFI bios issue.. you have to find a card that has a switch like this one http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2755310/dual-uefi-legacy-bios-video-cards.html

I agree.  I got the gigabyte version and have read the msi version has a uefi / legacy switch.  I guess I'll send this one back and get a msi gtx
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2016, 02:34:11 AM »
Definitely not a power supply issue. It's a HP issue.
I mean, 700 Watt is well enough for that card. If your repair man says you'd need 1000 W or more, he's stuck into facts from the last decade. Since the Radeon HD5000 series the trend has been to less power usage.
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2016, 04:40:41 PM »
I mean, 700 Watt is well enough for that card. If your repair man says you'd need 1000 W or more, he's stuck into facts from the last decade. Since the Radeon HD5000 series the trend has been to less power usage.


 Bizman,you're ignoring facts!!!!

  The repair man wanted to give him a wallet flush and sell a 1000watt PSU he had just collecting dust..... :devil



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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2016, 04:43:51 PM »

 Bizman,you're ignoring facts!!!!

  The repair man wanted to give him a wallet flush and sell a 1000watt PSU he had just collecting dust..... :devil



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Exactly what I was thinking.

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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2016, 02:06:13 AM »
A wallet flush? Love that idiom, thank you!

But yes, that's plausible. Then again, what I've learned a too big power supply can cause issues which may break the computer. If that was intentional a new level of greed has been achieved...
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2016, 08:31:53 PM »
I mean, 700 Watt is well enough for that card. If your repair man says you'd need 1000 W or more, he's stuck into facts from the last decade. Since the Radeon HD5000 series the trend has been to less power usage.

Agreed.

considering the PC came stock with a 300w power supply.   

Got an appointment with the computer I wanted to originally wanted to go with monday morning.  Hopefully will just entail a partial wallet flush lol
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Re: Difficulty upgrading my graphics card
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2016, 01:59:20 PM »
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Took the PC to a computer repair place today and in the tech guy's opinion the 700 watt power supply isn't enough.  Recommended 1000 watt psu or bigger.   I find that hard to believe since the gtx calls for 400 watt minimum.

You have to be careful with these places. We have a micro center near me I used to do business with and there is a wide variation of expertise with the so called techies they have on staff. Back when I was doing DV professionally I'd occasionally talk with some of them about this or that and some of their answers were painfil in an area, at least at the time, I knew a fair amount about. It was obvious they knew nothing about DV, and not much more about computers. On the other hand they had a couple heavy hitters in the shop.

Its very possible this guy knew nothing of the power advances new GPUs have made. I myself was surprised at the 500 wt rating of the 1070 and thrilled I wouldnt have to upgrade my 755 wt power in box now.

So it may have very well been ignorance and not trying to sell a new power unit. Most of all in a chain store. I'd take your problem to the Nvidea boards as Im sure its been repeated and is fixable. This is why I buy from Digital Storm or would build my own. Good luck.
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