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dive bombing ranges
« on: October 02, 2016, 05:00:23 PM »
in AH2 a bomb had to travel 800 feet to arm then it was 1000ft..has it been changed in AH3?
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2016, 11:47:23 PM »
I always thought it was 600 feet? 
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 01:52:57 AM »
Bomb arming distance has been 1000 feet ever since release of 1.08, Oct 2001  :old:
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 05:38:21 AM »
In AH2 my hanger take down rate was  around 9 out of 10 using salvo 6 on the P-38.  In AH3, it went to zero then back to 1 out of 4.  The last few days I have gotten to around a 50-50 chance.  My squad mate is having the exact same problem.

Not sure if the damage model is smaller or just the hangers appear smaller throwing of my bombing eye.  I do know I made a slight change in my bomb drop spot on the gun sight and that helped quite a bit.  The rocket ladder mark is still good.

My gv kill rate is down too but that has been more due with the P-38 flies heavier in my opinion than ah2 or again it could be the way things look and sound in AH3 that has my rhythm off.  My usual clover leaf like pattern when attacking GVs often leads to bombs not arming because I just can not get quite the height I did in AH2 with the 38.  I have stalled the 38 into the ground or did not pull out in time in AH3 to the point of embarrassment in AH3 but it was a rarity in AH2.

Not a complaint since it is the same for everyone.  I just need to remaster my skills in AH3.

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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2016, 11:15:58 AM »
Randy, my suggestion to you would be to spend a little bit of time in the TA or offline with the bombing cross and get familiar with your sight picture again. It seems like the field-of-view change has a bunch of people thrown off.

in AH2 a bomb had to travel 800 feet to arm then it was 1000ft..has it been changed in AH3?

Bomb arming distance has been 1000 feet ever since release of 1.08, Oct 2001  :old:

If Shmailman is correct (I place my trust in him), then it's 1,000 feet. Remember though, that it's 1,000 feet through the air, and not solely altitude.
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2016, 11:29:34 AM »
No change for me between AH2 and AH3. 

I typically dive in from 4K.  Speed at 250 and a 40 degree dive angle.  Release at about 800.  At that angle you get the 1K travel through air.
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2016, 12:51:18 AM »
Yup, like Slipknot said. I had a problem with D bombing early as well. Turns out, i just wasnt doing the same as I did in 2. It looked so different in 3 that I wasnt paying attention to my approaches. Soon as I figured that out, the Ol'e Stealth Bomber AKA Spit xvI was back in form! Still have to concentrate harder as its not as second nature just yet. It does have a few benefits though! Ok, maybe only one... but that is....I get to practice rearming!!!! Had to do that 3 times for 1 Panzer just this evening. Randy , Hightech changed the size of the "GREEN TARGET" dive bomb sight, its not that tiny speck any more. In case you didnt know. 
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 05:52:27 AM »
No doubt it is time to take a little TA time to get my dive bombing eye back.

No change for me between AH2 and AH3. 

I typically dive in from 4K.  Speed at 250 and a 40 degree dive angle.  Release at about 800.  At that angle you get the 1K travel through air.

I have increased my diving speed to help deal with the ack in AH3.  300 was my preferred drop and or rocket launch speed but I have went to 350.  I am surprised at 250, you don't get bet up pretty badly with the ack

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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 07:31:38 AM »
With the P38L, the 113th Lucky Strikes has always used salvo 5 to take down any hanger.  We also found that two attacking P38L's could take down three hangers, with the two P38L's combining the remaining 5 rockets each and each making two machine gun and cannon runs on the third remaining hanger.
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2016, 10:38:05 AM »
With the P38L, the 113th Lucky Strikes has always used salvo 5 to take down any hanger.  We also found that two attacking P38L's could take down three hangers, with the two P38L's combining the remaining 5 rockets each and each making two machine gun and cannon runs on the third remaining hanger.

I will give the 5 salvo a go.  I have always used 6 but that one more rocket is valuable.

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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 12:45:53 PM »
I will give the 5 salvo a go.  I have always used 6 but that one more rocket is valuable.

I use salvo 1 and control all my dispersion. Frozen Margaritas help a lot too.
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 01:35:19 PM »
So 2 P-38l on 3 hangers= 2 attack runs apiece + at minimum 2 passes each for gun runs on the 3rd? Wow, I cant remember the last time I had that much time in field ack with out a trip to tower, lol Usually only 2 and im either dead or soon to be so. 38s are big targets! I may be able to get 3 runs in a yak, a bit harder to hit lol Not for hangers of coarse, but strafing guns. :rolleyes:
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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2016, 01:46:25 PM »
So 2 P-38l on 3 hangers= 2 attack runs apiece + at minimum 2 passes each for gun runs on the 3rd? Wow, I cant remember the last time I had that much time in field ack with out a trip to tower, lol Usually only 2 and im either dead or soon to be so. 38s are big targets! I may be able to get 3 runs in a yak, a bit harder to hit lol Not for hangers of coarse, but strafing guns. :rolleyes:

Try it with a fighter going in ahead of you to draw the ack. They can go max speed and jink without worrying about hitting any targets.

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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2016, 03:37:14 PM »
Try it with a fighter going in ahead of you to draw the ack. They can go max speed and jink without worrying about hitting any targets.

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Re: dive bombing ranges
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 03:37:59 PM »
So 2 P-38l on 3 hangers= 2 attack runs apiece + at minimum 2 passes each for gun runs on the 3rd? Wow, I cant remember the last time I had that much time in field ack with out a trip to tower, lol Usually only 2 and im either dead or soon to be so. 38s are big targets! I may be able to get 3 runs in a yak, a bit harder to hit lol Not for hangers of coarse, but strafing guns. :rolleyes:

47s take down 3 hangers a bit easier than 38s since only one gun pass is needed with that extra 500# bomb on each plane.