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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2016, 02:06:58 PM »
Pressing F10 doesn't seem to save the current view for me.

Screen shots are attached before and after F10.

I have pretty large dead zones in my TIR profiles.  I wonder if that could "fool" AH3 when setting the position.

You moved above default and saved the current view and position, then you were still just as far above the default position for the new default view. Recenter TIR to fix.  Recenter does not mean reset AH view to default again. Just set TIR back to the new default center with the TIR center command or the AH tracker center command.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2016, 03:50:53 PM »
You are using the old method of setting the view which worked in AH2. It does not work in AH3. AH3 uses a new method of setting the view. Follow the directions for AH3 and see if that helps.

Do not freeze TIR. Do not take off the headset. Move your actual head so you see the view you want then press F10. Sit normally and press your TIR re-center button or the AH3 Tracker Center button.


I don't think the process you describe to set my head position will place the gun site where I want.  I'll play with it tonight after work and report.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2016, 03:55:07 PM »
How does one reset the head position back to AH3 default?
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2016, 04:06:10 PM »
How does one reset the head position back to AH3 default?

Delete the hps file in the settings/planes folder

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2016, 04:13:30 PM »
Delete the hps file in the settings/planes folder

Rgr that.  Will AH3 recreate this file when I customize my head positions?
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2016, 04:16:09 PM »
Rgr that.  Will AH3 recreate this file when I customize my head positions?

Yes

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2016, 05:42:51 PM »
To start with a baseline, I deleted the hps file for the F4F4.  In the offline practice arena, spawned an F4F4,  and hit F10.  This moved my head position all the way up.  I then paused TIR and adjusted my head position down till the sight was in the center and hit F10. 


Unpaused TIR and the head position stayed there, which was a good thing - haven't had that result yet. 


Paused TIR again and adjusted my head position a little up in the cockpit to where I like it - hit F10.  Unpaused TIR and my head position jumped to the top of the cockpit again.  Attempted again, same result.


Hitech, please see if you can duplicate this issue.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2016, 06:19:55 PM »
You forgot to center TIR.

You don't need to turn TIR off unless you are resetting the view to default with the Home key.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2016, 06:33:10 PM »
You forgot to center TIR.

You don't need to turn TIR off unless you are resetting the view to default with the Home key.


Let's just assume for the moment that I know how to use TIR...


I centered several times. 


That is not the issue.  TIR has no effect or role on setting your head position in the game.  Now, it may not be a bug.. could be something associated my with my PC or copy of AH3..


I simply request HT try and duplicate what I am seeing.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2016, 06:45:21 PM »
Try assuming you don't have to turn TIR off.

Start TIR.

Start AH3.

Center TIR.

Move your head to see the view you want.  Press F10 once.

Sit normally.

Center TIR.

How did that work?

Note that "move your head" does not mean pause TIR and press keys.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2016, 07:44:06 PM »
You are confusing two separate processes.   TIR is on before I start AH3 and stays on the entire time.  I never have said or alluded I "turned it off"


Instead of arguing it is the user's issue in this case, I suggest you try something productive and see if you can duplicate the issue I am having.




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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2016, 08:30:57 PM »
When you pause TIR you are turning it off. Try following my directions.

I already know that doing it wrong won't work. I don't need to duplicate it.

Everyone reporting problems describes doing it wrong. You are trying to do it like AH2.
Its different now. Try the simple easy way instead. Its easier and faster and it works.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2016, 08:56:42 PM »
For the record, I tried your method and it did not work.  I centered my TIR on a windscreen without a gun sight with your instructions.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2016, 10:10:30 PM »
TIR has no effect or role on setting your head position in the game. 

This belief is likely what's screwing you up. TIR is exactly what you use to set your head position in the game. If you have VR you use the VR headset to set the position in the game. If you don't have either then you use the keyboard to set your position.

If you want to reset your position to default then you take the headset off and use the Home key.

For the record, I tried your method and it did not work.  I centered my TIR on a windscreen without a gun sight with your instructions.

What were you trying to do and what steps did you take?



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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2016, 07:51:44 AM »
Try assuming you don't have to turn TIR off.

Start TIR.

Start AH3.

Center TIR.

Move your head to see the view you want.  Press F10 once.

Sit normally.

Center TIR.

How did that work?

Note that "move your head" does not mean pause TIR and press keys.

This does not solve my problem.  In the F4F4, pressing F10 with TIR active simply puts my head position at the top of the cockpit without a gun sight to use.  There is a different issue - it is not a lack of knowledge on my part.

Again, I don't have this problem in the other AC I use (P-47s, F4Us, F6Fs..) only the F4F4.

Are you a TIR user? 
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