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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2016, 10:54:44 AM »
Doesn't work that way for me.

With TIR enabled I move my head to change the sight picture, then hit F10 and the "position" jumps beyond what where it was.  When I move my head back to "neutral" the sight picture is not what it was when I hit F10.

Maybe something about my TIR setup.

Did you try re-centering TIR from the neutral position after it jumps?

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2016, 11:58:30 AM »
Just press F10 and your current position is set.

Wrong.  Only in some planes f10 does not work. It worked in ah2 but not 3.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2016, 11:59:28 AM »
Wrong.  Only in some planes f10 does not work. It worked in ah2 but not 3.

List the planes.

Also list the steps you use to set the position.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2016, 11:59:54 AM »
Doesn't work that way for me.

With TIR enabled I move my head to change the sight picture, then hit F10 and the "position" jumps beyond what where it was.  When I move my head back to "neutral" the sight picture is not what it was when I hit F10.

Maybe something about my TIR setup.

Same here.  FLS try to understand instead of rubber stamping.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2016, 12:01:08 PM »
Same here.  FLS try to understand instead of rubber stamping.

I'm reporting what works for me. Try to stay on topic.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2016, 12:04:10 PM »
I'm reporting what works for me. Try to stay on topic.

I am.  We are trying to report  a problem.  You keep rubber stamping there is no problem.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2016, 12:15:08 PM »
Show me where I'm "rubber stamping". I never said you don't have a problem.

List the planes where F10 doesn't work and the steps you used that failed to set the position.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 12:18:58 PM by FLS »

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2016, 12:24:02 PM »
Do you uses 6 or 3 axis TIR.

And head will not move do you mean with keys or with TIR?

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6 axis.  The head position will not move with keys when TIR is enabled.  I understand that this is not how it works now.

If I move my (actual) head with TIR enabled, then hit F10, the sight picture jumps a bit from where it was moved to.  Then, when I return my (actual) head to the TIR "center" position, the sight picture is not what it was when I hit F10.

With trial and error, it can be made to work pretty well, but it doesn't seem to work for me the way FLS describes.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2016, 12:27:34 PM »
I have the same issue, but it seems to be AC specific.  I am a TIR user as well.

I have no problem setting my head position to where I want in a D11, but in a F4F-4, the I can't set my head position where I want it.  Even pressing F10 to go to default view will not put the gun sight in the center of the windscreen.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2016, 12:31:43 PM »
Pressing F10 saves the current view. It doesn't set the default view.

What's the specific problem in the F4F? Did you try resetting the default position before moving?

To restore the default take off the headset or turn it off. Press the Home key to reset the view.
Press F10 to save the view. Put your headset back on or turn it back on.

If the view isn't centered press your TIR recenter button.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2016, 12:37:37 PM »
Pressing F10 saves the current view. It doesn't set the default view.

What's the specific problem in the F4F? Did you try resetting the default position before moving?

To restore the default take off the headset or turn it off. Press the Home key to reset the view.
Press F10 to save the view. Put your headset back on or turn it back on.

If the view isn't centered press your TIR recenter button.

You are correct - F10 saves the current view.  And yes, I did try resetting to default.

I simply freeze my TIR, use the arrow keys to adjust to desired position, hit F10, and I am good to go.  Worked for years in all AC.

Using the same steps above in the F4F-4, resetting the default view does not work for me.  I can't see the gun sight and my head position is at the top of the canopy.  When I try to adjust using the arrow keys, after freezing TIR, and save with F10, the head position ends up somewhere randomly different. 

Maybe someone could attempt to duplicate this to see if it's my equipment or a bug.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2016, 12:42:37 PM »
Pressing F10 doesn't seem to save the current view for me.

Screen shots are attached before and after F10.

I have pretty large dead zones in my TIR profiles.  I wonder if that could "fool" AH3 when setting the position.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 01:12:09 PM by popeye »
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2016, 01:00:05 PM »
Pressing F10 doesn't seem to save the current view for me.

Screen shots are attached before and after F10.

Pretty much the same result for me.
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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2016, 01:24:20 PM »
You are correct - F10 saves the current view.  And yes, I did try resetting to default.

I simply freeze my TIR, use the arrow keys to adjust to desired position, hit F10, and I am good to go.  Worked for years in all AC.

Using the same steps above in the F4F-4, resetting the default view does not work for me.  I can't see the gun sight and my head position is at the top of the canopy.  When I try to adjust using the arrow keys, after freezing TIR, and save with F10, the head position ends up somewhere randomly different. 

Maybe someone could attempt to duplicate this to see if it's my equipment or a bug.

You are using the old method of setting the view which worked in AH2. It does not work in AH3. AH3 uses a new method of setting the view. Follow the directions for AH3 and see if that helps.

Do not freeze TIR. Do not take off the headset. Move your actual head so you see the view you want then press F10. Sit normally and press your TIR re-center button or the AH3 Tracker Center button.

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Re: Moving forward view in TIR moves the entire head box
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2016, 01:53:18 PM »
Pressing F10 doesn't seem to save the current view for me.

Screen shots are attached before and after F10.

I have pretty large dead zones in my TIR profiles.  I wonder if that could "fool" AH3 when setting the position.

Was the 2nd shot before or after you moved your  head back to the tracker center?

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