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Offline FLS

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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2016, 05:21:40 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on October 13, 2016, 05:12:25 PM
Everyone posting about checklists....my argument is that it's easy to up in attack mode without having any intention on engaging ground targets....meaning if you get killed without any kills on boars your fighter score isn't hurt. Bunch of broken records who think everything is fine an dandy... :rolleyes:

How is that hurting you?
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2016, 05:36:14 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on October 13, 2016, 05:12:25 PM
....meaning if you get killed without any kills on boars your fighter score isn't hurt.

But your attack score is.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2016, 05:38:22 PM »
Quote from: FLS on October 13, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
How is that hurting you?
Did I say or come off like it was hurting me????

I know many players are competitive for rank (if you don't think so there's at least 100 of them...just by looking at scores for milk runs) so my suggestion is a way to give the ranking system more integrity. Part of the reason I don't play for rank anymore is because of how easily manipulated it is....remember the CHog vulch days....yea all the "hog pilots" in the top 50 still do the same thing....no skill in it...aka no competition...aka boring rank structure.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2016, 05:39:52 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on October 13, 2016, 05:36:14 PM
But your attack score is.
True, but K/D isn't as big of factor in the Attack score because of damage
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2016, 05:48:18 PM »
Just looked at the top 50 in fighters....I have to ask FLS...you think Fighter score isn't broke looking at those names??? Come on man, get off the everything is fine and dandy train
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2016, 05:57:47 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on October 13, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
Just looked at the top 50 in fighters....I have to ask FLS...you think Fighter score isn't broke looking at those names??? Come on man, get off the everything is fine and dandy train

What's wrong with those names?
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2016, 06:02:54 PM »
I remember a similar discussion many years ago, maybe 8 or so. Was going along similar lines "lamers using attack mode to protect their fighter rank", "vulchers at the top" and so on.
I combined fighter and attack stats for all the pilots and then ranked them again. As far as I remember, the actual difference between this combined rank and the singular fighter rank was surprisingly small for the top pilots.

Maybe I can dig that one up again...  :headscratch:
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2016, 06:07:22 PM »
You're talking about 2009? Hehe, I remember those days.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2016, 07:00:15 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on October 13, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
Just looked at the top 50 in fighters....I have to ask FLS...you think Fighter score isn't broke looking at those names??? Come on man, get off the everything is fine and dandy train

You say there is a problem but you don't say what it is.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2016, 07:38:01 PM »
Fighter rank easy to manipulate....thought that was pretty obvious.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2016, 07:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on October 13, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
I remember a similar discussion many years ago, maybe 8 or so. Was going along similar lines "lamers using attack mode to protect their fighter rank", "vulchers at the top" and so on.
I combined fighter and attack stats for all the pilots and then ranked them again. As far as I remember, the actual difference between this combined rank and the singular fighter rank was surprisingly small for the top pilots.

Maybe I can dig that one up again...  :headscratch:
Let me search for VansCrew's number 1 in every category(maybe except for 1) He was a prime example for my argument because(yes he was overall a good stick) he made a thread where he explained he only upped in Fighter mode when he knew he was going to get a lot of kills quickly. Don't understand how people don't think fighter mode is easily manipulated honestly.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2016, 08:04:35 PM »
It's not easily manipulated. His argument was flawed in that he presupposed that the chance to get lots of kills will happen every time you are online. It won't.

The only thing that is true about fighter ranks is that everyone in the upper ranks has the same problem that every ace throughout history has had. There will be people gunning for you (literally) and any noob in the arena with the option to shoot you, can kill you as easily as you kill anyone else.
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2016, 08:19:43 PM »
Quote from: JunkyII on October 13, 2016, 07:38:01 PM
Fighter rank easy to manipulate....thought that was pretty obvious.

It's not obvious at all.  You believe that flying an attack aircraft in attack mode and not getting a fighter score is manipulating the fighter score. Lusche pointed out that it only manipulates your attack score. A fighter score requires flying in fighter mode. Your complaint seems to be that nobody is forced to fly attack aircraft in fighter mode.

Why that is a problem which concerns you?

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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2016, 08:55:37 PM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: October 14, 2016, 11:15:36 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Attack label when rolling light
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2016, 08:56:12 PM »
Quote from: Dobs on October 10, 2016, 09:29:39 AM
Anyway to keep this guy off my posts...I don't want his opinion. I'm highlighting what I see as an issue...

There is no squelch button on the board that I can see.

You have to manually enter it.  And then he still pops up any way. 
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