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Offline RJH57

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Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« on: October 30, 2016, 07:24:23 PM »
WOW! This Japanese ace shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses!
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkGpC4yjaS1olA1qWujMzb_KKLW9
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2016, 09:54:22 PM »
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2016, 07:16:36 PM »
Quote from: RJH57 on October 30, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
WOW! This Japanese ace shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses!
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkGpC4yjaS1olA1qWujMzb_KKLW9

If you read that you noticed that he got B-29s kills with RAMMING ATTACKS in a Ki-100.   OK - I can see you getting ONE B-29 that way, but try to figure out how to bail out and survive after ramming a B-29...
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 08:42:32 PM »
I guess he shot two down and damaged the third with ramming "attacks".  I am not sure by how it is written.
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 07:19:07 PM »
A couple guys got b29s with a ki43.
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 08:14:32 PM »
USAAF records indicate 147 B-29s lost due to flak or fighters. Broken down, 74 were lost to fighters, 54 to flak, and 19 to a combination of enemy actions (fighters and flak). 267 B-29's were lost due to accidents and mechanical failure (in-flight fires, fuel exhaustion, etc). About 10% of these are classified as being lost to unknown cause. This includes those deployed in the CBI theater.

Japanese pilots claimed 714 destroyed, 456 probably destroyed and 770 damaged.

I don't, for a second, believe that this guy shot down 9 B-29's.

If the ratio of over-claiming applies, he may have gotten 1. Probably a head-on ram, because the B-29 is faster than the Ki-61 at 32,000 feet, which can barely maintain altitude that height.
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 08:20:59 PM »
They started out by flying that high, but after a while they lowered the B-29 mission alts to below 15,000 feet. It was a matter of cold numbers. At 15k they got more bombs on target per lost bomber than at 30k, even if at 30k the losses were mostly from non-combat related causes. The IJAA just wasn't effective enough to make the losses not worth it.
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 07:12:13 AM »
Perrine posted a Japanese documentary over in the aircraft and vehicles section that had a very relevant segment to this thread:

https://youtu.be/Wc3Xj0Eqa4Q?t=1007
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 07:19:32 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on November 08, 2016, 07:12:13 AM
Perrine posted a Japanese documentary over in the aircraft and vehicles section that had a very relevant segment to this thread:

https://youtu.be/Wc3Xj0Eqa4Q?t=1007

A time stamp would be helpful.
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 07:32:35 AM »
Just click the link. It is at the correct time.
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2016, 07:38:53 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on November 08, 2016, 07:32:35 AM
Just click the link. It is at the correct time.

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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2016, 07:39:55 AM »
Don't hurt yourself ;)
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2016, 07:41:47 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on November 08, 2016, 07:39:55 AM
Don't hurt yourself ;)


Lol.

Good segment.  :aok
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Re: Japanese ace who shot down NINE B-29 Superfortresses
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2016, 09:53:19 AM »
For this task, the fighter pilots were given newer 20 mm Ho-5 cannon-equipped Nakajima Ki-84 machines, called "Frank" by the Allies.[3]

Ogawa found that the B-29s were more vulnerable when they were maintaining level flight in their bombing runs and could not employ evasive maneuvers. Exploiting this weakness during night actions, he shot two of the bombers down by frontal attack, firing at the nose. He continued with his aerial successes and by August 1945 when the war ended, he had built up a confirmed score of seven B-29 bombers downed, as well as two P-51 Mustang fighters. This made him the highest scoring pilot against B-29s in the 70th Sentai, his air group.[1] By the order of General Shizuichi Tanaka, on 9 July 1945 Ogawa was awarded the Bukosho, the highest military honor given to living IJA personnel during World War II. At the same time he was commissioned as an officer with the rank of second lieutenant.[3]

After the war Ogawa became a businessman. He lives in Tokyo.[3]

How many people are in a b29 crew, this guy is a living legend

x7 B29
2x P51
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