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Offline Gman

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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #165 on: January 05, 2017, 10:07:06 PM »
Speed is speed, a fast drawer will be pretty quick out of any holster.  You're right that when you're prepared to draw on a buzzer, it's nothing like a real life encounter with a threat, where much of the time they'll have surprise on their side, and you're reactions will play a huge part.  Once you're recovered from your startle response though, your draw speed is what it is unless your draw is interfered with in some manner due to being in a cramped position, contact distance to the threat, whatever.  I train mostly with a level 2 or 3 Safariland retention holster, that's what I was issued and what we used when I worked for a couple PMCs, I'd never want a retentionless kydex/whatever open top outside belt holster for anything other than a place to hold my handgun out plinking somewhere.  I've trained many shooters to get under a 1 second draw with the Safariland holster in an open carry config.  CCW with an IWB open top holster, sub second is something most shooters can get to if they want to put the time in.

I agree, draw speed is far from the most important skill, but I'd rather be faster than slower myself.  The best school I've been to is hands down Rogers shooting school, I'd rate it probably #1 in the USA by a pretty fair margin in terms of straight up pistol speed skills, and right from the first minute, you're shooting against a timer vs reactive moving plate targets.  In training the only way to simulate stress conditions is adding the pressure of time, outside of using sim/air munition and force on force (ie people shooting you with things that sting), but it's hard to teach and learn things in force on force.  It's a good tool IMO for trying/testing skills out, but not for actually learning them.

Time-Distance-Cover, the equation/loop that rules all gunfights, all are important, but cover is the one which is most frequently...not ignored, but has the least amount of stress put on it in training.  IMO it's a critically important part of the equation, as it more than the other two will be most likely to keep you alive, more so than draw speed (which is part of "time", but as you pointed out, distance as well, in terms of creating distance from a contact range threat), or anything else.  I think spending time on identifying cover, how to get to it quickly, and how to effectively fight from it, is time better spent than learning how to "fast draw" ie the whole Tex video.  You never see guys putting up videos of doing that though, moving at an angle on the way to cover. 
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #166 on: January 06, 2017, 07:26:20 AM »
A friend just bought the exact same gun. They are making beautiful reproductions and Im totally impressed.

Have you taken it to the range yet?

I'm hoping to this week-end, I shoot every week-end but Mama has a pretty big to-do list coming up.

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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #167 on: January 06, 2017, 07:27:31 AM »
Just got my P938 Scorpion!!  :x

Looks like this:



it'll be the carry replacement for the Ruger LCP with it's really horrible trigger.
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #168 on: January 06, 2017, 07:31:14 AM »
Thanks Buckshot!

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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #169 on: January 06, 2017, 07:35:18 AM »
I carry a Beretta Nano (9mm) and love it. Compact gun with a good weight and feel to it.

No longer need a permit to CC here in Maine as of last year.
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #170 on: January 06, 2017, 07:56:33 AM »

Thanks, not nearly as gorgeous as your pistol. That's pretty wow!

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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #171 on: January 06, 2017, 11:30:03 AM »
My wife wanted to use the Xmas money that Mom gave us at christmas for a new grill.
I said "Mom will be dead within a year (lung cancer)...I don't want to spend the money on something I'll have to throw out in 10 years.
So wife got to spend her 500 on whatever and I spent $516 on the Cimarron.
My mom is a hard core republican, 2nd amendment rights supporter, and used to hunt deer and Elk when she was younger, in MN, MT and CO. (She's taken a few deer but never saw an Elk.) So, the revolver was sort of a commemoration to her.

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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #172 on: January 10, 2017, 06:54:19 PM »
I don't know if this crosses the line regarding politics but I'll risk it. A federal mandate for states to recognize and allow other states concealed carry permits for visitors will be very welcomed.
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #173 on: January 11, 2017, 05:57:20 AM »
I don't know if this crosses the line regarding politics but I'll risk it. A federal mandate for states to recognize and allow other states concealed carry permits for visitors will be very welcomed.

National Reciprocity, hell yes, about time!
But how will the, more "Constitutionally Challenged" states react to that?

I can hear the  :ahand already!
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #174 on: January 11, 2017, 03:39:16 PM »
My wife wanted to use the Xmas money that Mom gave us at christmas for a new grill.
I said "Mom will be dead within a year (lung cancer)...I don't want to spend the money on something I'll have to throw out in 10 years.
So wife got to spend her 500 on whatever and I spent $516 on the Cimarron.
My mom is a hard core republican, 2nd amendment rights supporter, and used to hunt deer and Elk when she was younger, in MN, MT and CO. (She's taken a few deer but never saw an Elk.) So, the revolver was sort of a commemoration to her.

What a gal and what a way to remember her.
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #175 on: January 13, 2017, 10:23:30 PM »
My mom got her CCW about two years before she passed, I gave her an old 9 shot? 22 revolver.  The instructor said he liked it.  I do remember it being made in 1962 and something Sears sold (eagle)?  She didn't shoot much, but a least all bullets hitting the target.  She was kind of intimidated with all the 9mm autos.  They seemed all gun serious, but couldn't hit the target.
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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #177 on: January 13, 2017, 11:18:20 PM »
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

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Re: Any CCW people here?
« Reply #178 on: January 13, 2017, 11:47:31 PM »
Tobacco and Booze are revenue streams, not sure why firearms where bunched up with those two.
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« Reply #179 on: January 14, 2017, 12:11:22 AM »
YEA

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