Request - Probably the 10,000th time

[RDSaustinTX]

WHAT strat targets???  

[Falcon]

HT,

AW2 and AW3 had tracers for bombers. BUT the AW's FM for B17 allowed it to "dogfight" with the fighters.

That was the problem with full gunned B17's in AW.  It wasn't the fact the bomber was fully manned. It was the flawed B17 FM.

Falcon

[Jnuk]

Was anyone else there for that aw arena on aol they called Air Galleons?  Now that was some fun.  Fighters disables, and the bombers toughness turned all the way up. That was a frickin blast!  You coulndt blow each other up, just keep breakin stuff off until one of yas hit the ground.

[cav58d]

Hitech-  Are these issues still limiting in AH3?  Full bomber full of squad mates would be a blast, and I'm hoping a decade + of technology improvements will finally allow this to happen in AH3???

[The Fugitive]

Hitech-  Are these issues still limiting in AH3?  Full bomber full of squad mates would be a blast, and I'm hoping a decade + of technology improvements will finally allow this to happen in AH3???

Holy Necro Bump Batman!

The technology is there and has been for a long time. HTC went with formations instead of more gunners.

You want "gunships", up 4 formations and use the wingman mode to fly a tight formation block and rule the skies.

[lunatic1]

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[lunatic1]

so where are you going to find 5 or 6 guys to fly with you for an hour. you would be better off learning to gun better.
did you know that if a bad guy is on your tail you hit the ( tab ) button, it highlights the fighter, All the guns on the plane that your in fires at that target. and there are not that many people chasing down buffs anymore, since more bomber pilots have gotten so much better at gunning.

you could probably make it 10,001 but I don't think it FLY hehe.

esp with currant numbers people don't have much playing time to be sitting in a bomber for an hour doing nothing, I sure would not.

[lunatic1]

oh god I just noticed this post was started in 2004..

if HiTech didn't do it in the last 16 years what makes you think he will do it now.?

[cav58d]

Lunatic - 
1-  Finding 5-6 people to gun for an hour would not be an issue.  That's why I am in a squad with friends.  This isn't about needing to gun better, it's the social aspect.

2-  Yes, the post is from the early 2000's where hitech wasn't necessarily against the idea, but said it wasn't worth it AT THE TIME due to the things that you would have to give up.  Surely the technology has changed from AH1 to AH3 and I would like
To revive an idea that hitech was at least somewhat interested in enough to respond to.

Sigh to you

[Lusche]

Lunatic - 
1-  Finding 5-6 people to gun for an hour would not be an issue. 

You must be kidding.
You can't even find 5-6 for a mission during a large part of a AH day. Good luck finding 6 for sitting in a gun when your side only has 10 or 20 players total. Not to speak of newer players whoi don't know anyone yet...

[cav58d]

You must be kidding.
You can't even find 5-6 for a mission during a large part of a AH day. Good luck finding 6 for sitting in a gun when your side only has 10 or 20 players total. Not to speak of newer players whoi don't know anyone yet...

Who said anything about trying to find ransoms?  My squad, and I suspect many others would have no issue filling up the positions with friends.  Heck even if you only could find two other gunners, it's still more then we have now and would be fun.

If technology is there to implement it there is no downside.  If you want to be able to man every single gun by yourself then praise the lord, pass the ammunition and don't accept requests to join.  If your willing to give up a gun or six, ask friends to join.

[EagleDNY]

Really I consider it a treat if I have even ONE gunner.  If anything, PLEASE let me turn off the tracers for the drones so that the gunner isn't telegraphing his target. 

[lunatic1]

like I said the lethality of the bomber pilots gunning for there own bombers is crazy good-App75-Obx for example don't need extra gunners for there bombers.
like Lusche said you can't even find people to do mission's as much, Esp on the Knights
there was 1 bomber mission yesterday 3 boxes of B17's-i shot down 4 in a P-51d,still trying to find what they bombed. they just flew around didna bomb anything I could find.

But I am not gonna say nvr say nvr.
If HTC go's to Steam and new and returning players stay, and get population back up to 300-600 people HiTech might change his mind, but I would not hold my breath, he could have done it in the very populated mid 2000's but he didn't

[Zoney]

Pffffffftttttttttttttt


OBX is easy.

And I am very, very sneaky 

[RedBeard]

It's not so much that buffs need the extra gunners, it's the camaraderie of a bunch of people committed to something together.

While I can run my own squadron bombing missions with formations and have us bomb a target together, it's not quite the same.  Squad members will drift out of formation with the rest of the group while gunning or in the bomb sight.  Someone being attacked will not have the same dire consequence for everyone in the squadron.

So, I agree that I'd like to see a larger number of positions filled with live gunners.  I also like the idea I saw earlier of tying the positions together for each plane in the formation so that you can only occupy for the positions defined for the type, not positions x planes in the formation.  In other words, one person could occupy the tail gunner position of any plane in the formation, but you could not have 2 or 3 different people in the tail gunner positions at the same time.  However, I would not want to give up the current gunning capabilities for this.