what do you do?

[JunkyII]

AH Film in the films section is better, if you don't mind editing it down and posting it there.  AH Film allows views from multiple angles; external, attacker, defender, plus the use of trails, which makes it far more useful.

 

But I just did this Very short and not a great example because it was quick and I'm getting good at noticing it and sucking them in more.



First high yo yo we almost equalize then I show another flat turn, he follows with another but I immediately pull vertical into flipping the encounter, what started as a yak diving on a 152 is now a 152 diving on a yak

This is a very COMMON thing in the MA similar to people taking HOs and losing all their position in a merge.

[Guppy35]

Haven't flown in a while, but part of the fun going back a long time was to try and get the guy above to come down and then find a way to beat them.  In my case I usually die, but there is a challenge in trying to negate their advantage.  obviously the guys determined to land kills will avoid letting the fight turn from BnZ to a turning fight, but often you can frustrate the high guy enough that he'll start turning and then the fun begins.

[JimmyC]

you fart in their faces?


semp

I fart in their general direction,,

especially if their mothers smelled of elderberries....

[JunkyII]

Haven't flown in a while, but part of the fun going back a long time was to try and get the guy above to come down and then find a way to beat them.  In my case I usually die, but there is a challenge in trying to negate their advantage.  obviously the guys determined to land kills will avoid letting the fight turn from BnZ to a turning fight, but often you can frustrate the high guy enough that he'll start turning and then the fun begins.

Those are the best, which is why I fly around under 3K most of the time.

[Estes]

You all suck.  Estes ownz you.  (I think I screwed up the sky rocks quote.  Been awhile since I seen that. That aside, you elite sticks... You realize that the DA is a vastly different skill set than the Ma right?

I used to spend gobs of time dueling. Not so much in the main arena, which I later regretted due to getting so used to DA matches the MA was always my weakness.

To answer the OP though,  depending what's above me how much more alt etc I would probably just watch it and do like others have said.  Wait for him to climb down to me. Unless it's a typh/temp insert other nuclear powered hizooka bird, I was never too keen on trying the give them my six strategy.

Not sure how many here recall the glass tail bug the 38l (back in ah 1 I think) but hell even a single.50 could knock your tail off. Was horribly frustrating. 

[bozon]

If it is a single con, I turn on my red "Moss" sign, pretend to be afk and wait 

If these are multiple bandit, I dive vertically into the acks while yelling for help on range channel, then a moment before augering I yank the cabels and power out of the wall, then hide in the next room for a few minures till the danger passed.

[JunkyII]

You all suck.  Estes ownz you.  (I think I screwed up the sky rocks quote.  Been awhile since I seen that. That aside, you elite sticks... You realize that the DA is a vastly different skill set than the Ma right?

I used to spend gobs of time dueling. Not so much in the main arena, which I later regretted due to getting so used to DA matches the MA was always my weakness.

To answer the OP though,  depending what's above me how much more alt etc I would probably just watch it and do like others have said.  Wait for him to climb down to me. Unless it's a typh/temp insert other nuclear powered hizooka bird, I was never too keen on trying the give them my six strategy.

Not sure how many here recall the glass tail bug the 38l (back in ah 1 I think) but hell even a single.50 could knock your tail off. Was horribly frustrating.

I would agree and disagree about dueling compared to MA flying...

Takes more ACM knowledge to be good at the DA then it does to be good in the MA....MA is all SA and aim....my proof, top 50 fighter scores every month...half them couldn't fight they're way out of a plastic bag.

[ACE]

The DA is where us old heads know who the greats are. Haven't seen anything worth mentioning in a very long time haha

[Shuffler]

I use the dueling arena to experiment with moves and to better see what other aircraft can do and not do. Certain moves against a like or different plane. That is what I think is the best part of the DA. Use what you picked up in the MA.

[ACE]

I use the dueling arena to experiment with moves and to better see what other aircraft can do and not do. Certain moves against a like or different plane. That is what I think is the best part of the DA. Use what you picked up in the MA.

Yeah same here!  You can really hone your skills.

[hgtonyvi]

I love when guys are over me. I bait em slowly and once they commit its poof for them lol...for newer players its gonna take practice to perform these maneuvers but practice makes perfect.

[save]

I dont run in my A8, I just fly to nearest airfield where I can turn my plane around one the runway to continue the fight   

[JunkyII]

The DA is where us old heads know who the greats are. Haven't seen anything worth mentioning in a very long time haha

They think I'm being cocky, I'm just pointing out the skill of the MAs top sticks has gone down...because I don't think my skill has gone up without the practice (all the informal 1v1 sessions) we used to get....and like I said....find me 10 that can beat me in a 1v1 bracket setup....I know the 10 in my head but people like puller (who have no idea about how good some used to be and how mediocre sticks today are) can't actually give a good list of the top 10 sticks because they lack experience against them.

I think the skill of an averge stick has gone up mainly because there are less new guys....I will say that, don't run into as many of the guys who i don't think know how to look back.

I also think some people need to understand that a lot of the big number kill droppers these days are little more then a person fighting from the advantage every sortie....and they truly aren't skilled at all.

[Krupinski]

I haven't taken any clips of AH lately, but here's a reversal from IL-2 BoS/BoM. 109F2 vs. Yak-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65sCbtJGcw

[Becinhu]

Haven't flown in a while, but part of the fun going back a long time was to try and get the guy above to come down and then find a way to beat them.  In my case I usually die, but there is a challenge in trying to negate their advantage.  obviously the guys determined to land kills will avoid letting the fight turn from BnZ to a turning fight, but often you can frustrate the high guy enough that he'll start turning and then the fun begins.

Tell the truth...you lure them down and then start throwing parts of your plane at them hoping for an oil hit or pilot wound from your shrapnel trail. Then once the offending six chaser augers you fly to the nearest base and crash short of the runway because you threw out too many parts for a safe landing.

I miss seeing a 38g on the deck barely airborne that I can dive on and auger in front of....


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