I think in all this discussion, a fundamental point was missed. Do all squads follow their leaders this way? I am just saying: If the briefing for my squad went: Unforgiven, here's the mission: We are going to fly 2 sectors (IN THE WRONG DIRECTION) and then just land our bombers and tower out. My guys (even the DFA guys that fly with us) would have said (through a haze of smoke and alcohol vapors) "Yeah, uhhh No, Pliss. That is a stupid plan. We are not doing that. Fellas, fall in on me heading 135 (a squad joke) and type dot speed 185 in your text buffers." I am kinda of proud of that. Every Friday our Leaders have to LEAD us into combat. If they don't, we got about 30 guys who are willing to step up. That is also a warning to other CIC's. If you would have sent this mission to us, we would have interpreted it thusly: He meant Bombs on target by T-60. ~~~ Snake~~~