Enough is enough

[JunkyII]

Again with the crowd of "its ok the way it is"

I almost lost a 262 on a Large airfield because a gun was in the runway and there was a line of trees at the end of it...this thread actually reminded me to post the screen shot, will do when I get back to my computer.

A Large airfield should be considered a very estaliased base...meaning in real life trees and crap like that would have been cleared.

It may not be easy to fix, but my question is how did it get pass all you testers? It's obviously a problem now (just like ENY)

[Drano]

It may not be easy to fix, but my question is how did it get pass all you testers? It's obviously a problem now (just like ENY)

I don't think anyone is saying it's OK. Clearly it ain't right, but they're working on it and I'm sure it'll get ironed out somewhere on the priority list.

I don't remember the building being an issue in testing but the trees were a heck of a lot worse in earlier versions! There were trees literally growing out of the runways! They trimmed em. Could probably do for a little more of that off the ends of the runways but I'm sure it's coming.

New version of the game is still being the bugs knocked out of it. Good to see the regular patches flowing so you know they're on it.

Meanwhile, if ya don't run into that building ya prolly won't hit it! <winkwink>;-)


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[flatiron1]

why would you take off on a grass strip if you have a paved strip?

[Masherbrum]

why would you take off on a grass strip if you have a paved strip?

Participating in the AH I FSO's with those winter maps and dirt/snow covered runways were awesome.   Personally, they should bring that aspect back to the game. 

[pembquist]

why would you take off on a grass strip if you have a paved strip?

Well I don't know about ww2 fighters but grass is more forgiving when it comes to avoiding a ground loop for tail draggers.

[toddbobe]

I posted about this about a month ago... waffle said he was changing the spawn...later someone said he was joking... i hope not.. its annoying... move the bloody building or change spawn position,.
Todd

[Zimme83]

Have tried almost all fighters and all of them can take off from the grass strip w/o flaps. Even the P-47 with 100% fuel, 3 bombs and 10 rockets..

Edit: At sea level, as always - taking off from a high altitude field requires a longer take off roll..

[popeye]

Here's an easy work-around:  use the east runway.

[DubiousKB]

Here's an easy work-around:  use the east runway.

They are aware of it and are working on it. Apparently it isn't as easy of a fix as we all would like.   

And the above sentiment, although technically correct, doesn't help a new player struggling to climb the steep learning curve that is this game.

Try to separate your own knowledge and experience from yourself when approaching these quarks as a BRAND NEW PLAYER.

Those of us here that are discussing it should realize that there are many ways around it, but for the player who's still got the download high and just got into the game shouldn't have to blow up simply because he hasn't taken flight school, 1000+ hours in real life, aerodynamic engineering, etc., etc., etc..

Auto-takeoff shouldn't be conditional. (is the horse dead yet!?)

[Randy1]

Again with the crowd of "its ok the way it is"

I almost lost a 262 on a Large airfield because a gun was in the runway and there was a line of trees at the end of it...this thread actually reminded me to post the screen shot, will do when I get back to my computer.

A Large airfield should be considered a very estaliased base...meaning in real life trees and crap like that would have been cleared.

It may not be easy to fix, but my question is how did it get pass all you testers? It's obviously a problem now (just like ENY)

There is no gun in the runway.  There is a gun just off the runway so if you hit it, well . . .  but you are not the only one that veered off the runway and hit that gun.  I did too.

The takeoff problems were brought up in testing.  They did make changes if i remember right.

[The Fugitive]

They are aware of it and are working on it. Apparently it isn't as easy of a fix as we all would like.   

And the above sentiment, although technically correct, doesn't help a new player struggling to climb the steep learning curve that is this game.

Try to separate your own knowledge and experience from yourself when approaching these quarks as a BRAND NEW PLAYER.

Those of us here that are discussing it should realize that there are many ways around it, but for the player who's still got the download high and just got into the game shouldn't have to blow up simply because he hasn't taken flight school, 1000+ hours in real life, aerodynamic engineering, etc., etc., etc..

Auto-takeoff shouldn't be conditional. (is the horse dead yet!?)

And i suppose next we should be listing all the fields that have hills in the way of some of the runways which make taking off in a fully layden buff near impossible. After all we cant have newbies crashing buffs all the time.

There is something to be said for LEARNING how to play the game and adjust for hazards as well.

[Copprhed]

And i suppose next we should be listing all the fields that have hills in the way of some of the runways which make taking off in a fully layden buff near impossible. After all we cant have newbies crashing buffs all the time.

There is something to be said for LEARNING how to play the game and adjust for hazards as well.

This times 100! This thread is a reminder...whiners gonna whine. They want to make someone else do the work for them, instead of modifying their own actions.....

[DubiousKB]

There is something to be said for LEARNING how to play the game and adjust for hazards as well.

Totally agree with you on this sir. 

Having said that, learning the game shouldn't include auto-takeoff.  It's AUTO...  You know, shouldn't require any input..... Great introduction to game play and an even easier way to sour new players. <--- this is more my concern than anything. Entice, Set Hook, Retain.  Instead of Entice, Infuriate, two-weeks done.

I get it, it's hard to watch someone being spoon fed. The hope is though, that ugly newbie baby won't be turned away from the game by things that, I mean come on sir, you have to admit is silly. (Pain in the butt for devs to fix apparently, but they know about it... )

And I'd also love to see that theatre briefing for bomber pilots as a clipboard map showing the restrictions on bases and bomber loadouts etc. Certainly beats wasting my time to find out how to die.   +1 for that info easily available in-game... 

[Bizman]

This entire debate sounds like there's building, acks and trees at the end of every runway, on every field. At one time I tried to find the nasties but couldn't - at least not to the point of hitting them. And I'm by far not the best pilot here.

I must admit that I've occasionally hit a building or another object during takeoff. The reason has always been personal distraction, it's hard to type and take off at the same time, especially with a goblet in one hand. 

[JunkyII]

There is no gun in the runway.  There is a gun just off the runway so if you hit it, well . . .  but you are not the only one that veered off the runway and hit that gun.  I did too.

The takeoff problems were brought up in testing.  They did make changes if i remember right.

Actually you are wrong again...this is the NE spawn on a large airfield notice the thing to the right of my gunsight...its a gun....



And WTF is up with the curved runway??? This is a NE spawn why is there no established dirt runway or concrete run way....If this isnt an actual runway that an auto take off works on...why even have it be an option in the tower....

Here's an idea instead of everything is fine...make do argument.....Put a red ring around every spawn direction where auto takeoff doesn't work or possibly wont work for all planes.


Yea Everything is all well and good...