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Offline Vraciu

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2016, 08:37:35 PM »
Well I don't know about ww2 fighters but grass is more forgiving when it comes to avoiding a ground loop for tail draggers.

I think that only applies to airplanes that are tailskid equipped.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2016, 01:42:42 AM »
I think that only applies to airplanes that are tailskid equipped.

No, I believe it is because there is a little bit of slippage on grass so when the main gets a little sideways the airplane doesn't rotate around the landing gear but instead can go a little off straight ahead without grabbing and spinning around. The one place here that rented a J3 wouldn't allow it on the pavement. I'm not sure if with a big monster prop and engine if it would be a case of forgiving schmagiving or not, meaning you'd better be on top of things because the lawn won't save you, I have no idea.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2016, 01:47:05 AM »
No, I believe it is because there is a little bit of slippage on grass so when the main gets a little sideways the airplane doesn't rotate around the landing gear but instead can go a little off straight ahead without grabbing and spinning around. The one place here that rented a J3 wouldn't allow it on the pavement. I'm not sure if with a big monster prop and engine if it would be a case of forgiving schmagiving or not, meaning you'd better be on top of things because the lawn won't save you, I have no idea.

Could be.   Having never ground looped an airplane I can't comment with any authority on it.   I have certainly never let my guard down on any taildragger until it was tied down.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2016, 12:03:34 PM »
Pull back slightly on the stick and lock the tail wheel.   :aok
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2016, 12:16:56 PM »
Pull back slightly on the stick and lock the tail wheel.   :aok


I don't think I could do that in a Stinson 108.   Can't remember now.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2016, 12:30:04 PM »

I don't think I could do that in a Stinson 108.   Can't remember now.

Nope.

Not a dragged but a tail wheel... in game.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2016, 12:40:17 PM »
Nope.

Not a dragged but a tail wheel... in game.

It locks the tailwheel in game. Helps when taking off from turning CV as well.  In RL there is a lever to do this.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2016, 07:46:13 PM »
Enough is enough.  :bhead
 
Get rid of the trees and buildings at the end of the runways!  :bhead
 
The setup of airfields add an unnecessary level of difficulty that, imho, is not needed.  Let's encourage people to fly and fight by removing the obstacles at airfields. Widen the runways, too. The gun emplacements are too close to the runway edges.

I enjoy being challenged by the skill of my opponents. I don't enjoy being taken out by an unrealistic airfield set up. In my 20 years of USAF service, I don't recall runway setups like in the game.

Odd, when the beta version came out, I kind of had this same opinion. But, honestly.... why?

We have a map for pure flying and fighting, that's called "dueling arena".  And, we have the WWI arena.  No offense, if you enjoy being challenged by the skill of your opponents, then go to to the DA/Dueling Arena.

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2016, 09:34:28 AM »
Enough is enough.  :bhead
 
Get rid of the trees and buildings at the end of the runways!  :bhead
 
The setup of airfields add an unnecessary level of difficulty that, imho, is not needed.  Let's encourage people to fly and fight by removing the obstacles at airfields. Widen the runways, too. The gun emplacements are too close to the runway edges.

I enjoy being challenged by the skill of my opponents. I don't enjoy being taken out by an unrealistic airfield set up. In my 20 years of USAF service, I don't recall runway setups like in the game.

How about Taxi to the bomber runway when heavy?

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2016, 12:10:01 PM »
I have yet to crash into a tree or a building while taking off.  can you be more specific?


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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2016, 01:26:53 PM »
i remember you hitting a hill

I was not part of that mission.


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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2016, 09:34:39 PM »
I was not part of that mission.


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was not a mission, you were trying to shoot me down and keep your alt, I was flyin tight against the wall, and splatt!!  :evil:

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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #57 on: December 25, 2016, 01:03:20 AM »
No, any tail wheel aircraft does much better on grass. I will take a grass airstrip anyday over a paved in my RV-6.

I think that only applies to airplanes that are tailskid equipped.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2016, 01:06:48 AM »
I have never ground looped one myself but had a student ground loop a J3. He said his leg went to sleep and he could not feel his foot on the rudder pedal and I could not override his dead foot on the rudder. Fortunately a J2 goes around very gently. :)

Could be.   Having never ground looped an airplane I can't comment with any authority on it.   I have certainly never let my guard down on any taildragger until it was tied down.
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Re: Enough is enough
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2016, 10:59:20 AM »
No, any tail wheel aircraft does much better on grass. I will take a grass airstrip anyday over a paved in my RV-6.

That seems to be the consensus.   I have only landed tailwheel airplanes on pavement, and then only a relatively few number of times.  That will change soon, kinda, when I start my AT-6 course late next year (God willing and the creek don't rise).

Oddly enough, the CAFs Buchons suffered some spar issues due to being operated off pavement as 109s were intended to be flown primarily off grass fields.  Or so it was said. 
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