brakes?

[Ack-Ack]

I use pedals for rudder and toe brakes. Ch pedals .
I just want to be able to have a function that will work both brakes simultaneously like yo would be able to do if using keyboard onlyit

What is the control function named flight brakes suppossed to do?

You'll have to press on both pedals to do what you want.  When I was using CH Pro Pedals, I had no troubles using both toe brakes (left/right) simultaneously for braking.

[Randy1]

I use pedals for rudder and toe brakes. Ch pedals .
I just want to be able to have a function that will work both brakes simultaneously like yo would be able to do if using keyboard onlyit

What is the control function named flight brakes suppossed to do?

Even though this does not answer your question you might try using the "Advanced" setting for the pedals to make them more user friendly so you do not need a button to apply both brakes at the same time like the space-bar does on the keyboard.

Flight brakes?  I will have to look that one up.

[TequilaChaser]

Flight brakes is probably referring to dive brakes air brakes, like the P38-L has....I would assume


TC

[flatiron1]

there is a separate  one for dive brakes.

[TequilaChaser]

there is a separate  one for dive brakes.

Heh, that is what one gets for assuming...I have to admit it probably has been 6+ years since I last fully went and looked through the whole list of key mapping...

TC

[rvflyer]

You don't have toe brakes on your rudder pedals?

ok what I want to do is be able to use my rudder pedals for left/right braking and also have a function where I can apply both brakes equally at the same time. there is a button setting for the controls that says flight wheel brakes  but does not seem to work.

[flatiron1]

lol read the first post.

[Traveler]

I use pedals for rudder and toe brakes. Ch pedals .
I just want to be able to have a function that will work both brakes simultaneously like yo would be able to do if using keyboard onlyit

What is the control function named flight brakes suppossed to do?

default brake in AH is the space bar, not the rudder keys.  I use the CH pedals, for rudder and the space bar for brake.

[Dobs]

Both P-47 and P38L have "dive recovery flaps" in real life. 

In the game, there is a dive recovery flaps yellow light which allows you "dive a little faster".....  turn it on when you take the runway as it has zero drag, zero effect except for allowing you to go just a little faster. 

In Real life, it was a hydraulic flap which actuated into the slipstream moving the center of lift to regain aircraft control (while also slowing the aircraft some).  Better explained here:

"The P-38's dive problem was revealed to be the center of pressure moving back toward the tail when in high-speed airflow. The solution was to change the geometry of the wing's lower surface when diving in order to keep lift within bounds of the top of the wing. In February 1943, quick-acting dive flaps were tried and proven by Lockheed test pilots. The dive flaps were installed outboard of the engine nacelles, and in action they extended downward 35° in 1.5 seconds. The flaps did not act as a speed brake; they affected the pressure distribution in a way that retained the wing's lift."

-Bodie, Warren M. The Lockheed P-38 Lightning: The Definitive Story of Lockheed's P-38 Fighter. Hayesville, North Carolina: Widewing Publications, 2001, 1991. ISBN 0-9629359-5-6.





They worked so well, they were equipped on the mighty Jug as well....

P-47



So just like the maneuvering flap setting which really doesn't do anything for the aircraft, the dive recovery flaps are also "just there" in the game...
 
From the report "SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT ON TACTICAL SUITABILITY OF THE P-38G TYPE AIRPLANE AS COMPARED TO THE P-38F 3 May 1943

One of the conclusions was " c.    The P-38G turns much better than the P-38F (will close 180° in 360° circle) due to maneuver flaps."


             
             

[Traveler]

ok what I want to do is be able to use my rudder pedals for left/right braking and also have a function where I can apply both brakes equally at the same time. there is a button setting for the controls that says flight wheel brakes  but does not seem to work.

Where did you see a control for "color=red]flight wheel brakes[/color]"?

[Ack-Ack]

default brake in AH is the space bar, not the rudder keys.  I use the CH pedals, for rudder and the space bar for brake.

There are 3 default keyboard commands for brakes.  The spacebar enables both toe brakes, while C is for the left toe brake and V is for the right toe brake.

[FLS]

So just like the maneuvering flap setting which really doesn't do anything for the aircraft, the dive recovery flaps are also "just there" in the game...
 
           

Actually both features work properly. The dive recovery flaps delay the onset of compression and the 50% flap extension has the P-38's highest CLmax, just like they're supposed to.

Your point may be that they are not exactly like the real thing but I have to wonder why you even bring that up when the OP is asking about wheel brakes.

[FLS]

Where did you see a control for "flight wheel brakes"?

Commands are grouped under Global, View, Flight, Gunner, Chute, and Vehicle. Wheel brakes are listed under Flight, hence "flight wheel brakes".

[Dobs]

Actually both features work properly. The dive recovery flaps delay the onset of compression and the 50% flap extension has the P-38's highest CLmax, just like they're supposed to.

Your point may be that they are not exactly like the real thing but I have to wonder why you even bring that up when the OP is asking about wheel brakes.

Well...since the dive recovery flaps should be also causing drag and they don't, I wouldnt say they work properly. And if you are insistent that the 50% setting is the maneuver flap setting, please make them deployable at 250mph per the manual.

[morfiend]

Well...since the dive recovery flaps should be also causing drag and they don't, I wouldnt say they work properly. And if you are insistent that the 50% setting is the maneuver flap setting, please make them deployable at 250mph per the manual.

  Dobs,

   Do you use combat trim or do you manually trim your planes ingame?

   I ask because CT will make the dive flaps seem ineffective as it will dial in too much down elevator trim at the speeds where the dive flaps should be deployed.  This has all be discussed and covered in the past! A retired trainer named Widewing made an extensive post on how and why they work. The amount of drag that they put out wont slow the plane in a dive and they were never meant to!

 As for the maneuver flap setting in both the 51 and 47 the flaps deploy above 250,the 38 gets it's first flap setting at 250,whether or not this is equal to the maneuver setting/degrees I cant say as it's both above my pay grade and I'm not rated in a 38 or any plane for that matter. But again combat trim has an effect on flaps also as it just works off a simple x and y setting,at x speed it dials in y amount of trim and it doesnt take in account any other variables,flaps, damage, etc. basically all it does is to try and trim the plane to fly straight and level.


  YMMV!