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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2017, 02:14:19 PM »
Any way you can shade it a different color?

Red = disabled at base or due to hangar closure

Yellow = disabled to to ENY

I take it you didnt care for the idea of using perks for ENY disabled planes, and possibly revisiting the perk cost of our current lineup?(spit16, la7, n1k etc..)

Thats what I did.

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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2017, 02:53:00 PM »
Thats what I did.

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Cool!  Will be a nice visual cue to have.  ENY can swing pretty wildly as the numbers get low later at night.

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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2017, 03:02:30 PM »
Ever wondered why good wishes never end up in the game over all these years? Very few good wishes are good for everyone in the game. And the ones who they are good for will always believe the wish is good for everyone else in the game.


Seems like you were wrong on this one....maybe you are wrong on all the others too...you're argument goes both ways...those in here who think a wish doesn't help the entire community might be wrong and it actual does...yet they still argue that it's not good for the game. hmmmmmm


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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2017, 05:49:07 PM »
Cool! Had a wish granted!

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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2017, 05:53:30 PM »
Cool! Had a wish granted!

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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2017, 06:10:05 PM »
Seems like you were wrong on this one....maybe you are wrong on all the others too...you're argument goes both ways...those in here who think a wish doesn't help the entire community might be wrong and it actual does...yet they still argue that it's not good for the game. hmmmmmm

It solves one simple problem for efficiency related to ENY but, doesn't solve the problem for those who simply hate ENY. They will either quit the game or continue to harangue Hitech in any manner they can slip it in, overtly or directly. Junky grow up.....
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2017, 06:45:13 PM »
It solves one simple problem for efficiency related to ENY but, doesn't solve the problem for those who simply hate ENY. They will either quit the game or continue to harangue Hitech in any manner they can slip it in, overtly or directly. Junky grow up.....

As far as I am concerned if you get jumped by five F4Fs or five P-51s the result is usually the same.   

ENY is a nuisance mostly.    Today we had 17 in flight and ENY 28+.    Unplayable.   I went and cleaned some handguns that I shot this weekend...
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2017, 08:02:44 PM »
As far as I am concerned if you get jumped by five F4Fs or five P-51s the result is usually the same.   

ENY is a nuisance mostly.    Today we had 17 in flight and ENY 28+.    Unplayable.   I went and cleaned some handguns that I shot this weekend...


They let you have Guns?  :bolt:


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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2017, 08:19:52 PM »

They let you have Guns?  :bolt:

Yeah.  Even in the cockpit.    :aok
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2017, 06:11:26 AM »
As far as I am concerned if you get jumped by five F4Fs or five P-51s the result is usually the same.   

ENY is a nuisance mostly.    Today we had 17 in flight and ENY 28+.    Unplayable.   I went and cleaned some handguns that I shot this weekend...

In flight makes no difference. How many were on each country?
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2017, 12:22:07 PM »
As far as I am concerned if you get jumped by five F4Fs or five P-51s the result is usually the same.   

ENY is a nuisance mostly.    Today we had 17 in flight and ENY 28+.    Unplayable.   I went and cleaned some handguns that I shot this weekend...
In most fighters you can pretty much ignore F4Fs if you want to, barring them having vastly better position on you.  P-51s, not so much.  In addition any mid to late Spitfire or Bf109, as an example, can get on top of, and stay on top of, five F4Fs while they kill them.  Doing so to five P-51s is vastly harder.
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2017, 02:26:04 PM »
In most fighters you can pretty much ignore F4Fs if you want to, barring them having vastly better position on you.  P-51s, not so much.  In addition any mid to late Spitfire or Bf109, as an example, can get on top of, and stay on top of, five F4Fs while they kill them.  Doing so to five P-51s is vastly harder.

"Getting jumped..."

This implies an altitude/energy disadvantage.

An F4F can dive plenty fast enough to be a problem. 

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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2017, 06:08:49 PM »
That is an overly specific situation you're setting up to make it look like ENY has no effect.

Speaking from experience it is much easier to deal with being jumped by a P-38G or P-40N than by an La-7.  It is also harder for them to jump you.
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2017, 07:27:44 PM »
That is an overly specific situation you're setting up to make it look like ENY has no effect.

Speaking from experience it is much easier to deal with being jumped by a P-38G or P-40N than by an La-7.  It is also harder for them to jump you.

We aren't talking about one.  We are talking about five.   A gang is a gang.  ENY does very little to mitigate that.
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Re: Shade out planes unavailable due to ENY
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2017, 07:58:15 PM »
We aren't talking about one.  We are talking about five.   A gang is a gang.  ENY does very little to mitigate that.
You are talking about a gang of F4Fs that managed to jump you.

1) Most encounters do not start by getting jumped, so already you're cherry picking the setting to advantage your argument.

2) It is much harder, and takes more work, for F4Fs, of any number, to get into position to jump anybody.  All the time those F4Fs spent getting into position that a P-51D, Spitfire Mk XVI or La-7 would not have spent is time those players were not fighting the outnumbered side, effectively reducing the numbers imbalance.

3) Escaping after being jumped by five F4Fs, or A6M2s or Hurricane Mk Is, is much easier than escaping from P-51Ds, Spitfire Mk XVIs or La-7s.
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