Rethink Strat's Affect on the Game

[Randy1]

The problem is the country with the largest number of players, has the resources to continually hit the smaller country strats.  The smaller country's lower resources prevents an effective defense of either Starts.

It has been suggested that eny system should be used to control strats and not control nonperked planes.  Since eny has little affect on map wins, this wish might fix too issues with AH game play.

[popeye]

It has been suggested that eny system should be used to control strats and not control nonperked planes

+1

Bish = 70, Knit = 50, Rook = 40.  Rook AAA strat = 100%.

Bish kills Rook auto gun, downtime = 30 min * (40/70) = 17 min.
Knit kills Rook auto gun, downtime = 30 min * (40/50) = 24 min.
(or, something...)

It doesn't solve the "global v. local" number imbalance issue, but does give a low-number side some relief without denying anyone their favorite ride.

[bustr]

Like the old saying about the hanger has unlimited revenge in it. The terrain queue will just give you a new opportunity to get it right the next time. Most wishes of this kind are an attempt to get Hitech to institute system impediments against which ever group of guys that night wants the map win the most. There are nights your side in the face of these kinds of strat issues still kicks the other countries kesters because on that night your guys wanted it more than the other guys.

The reality is some nights your side just doesn't have the numbers or your numbers aren't feeling the mojo. And wishes like this even well meaning at their heart, are really about handicapping other people because they got it together for that night.

 

[Randy1]

. . . Most wishes of this kind are an attempt to get Hitech to institute system impediments against which ever group of guys that night wants the map win the most. . . .

No, not at all.  Big difference between wanting  to win, and number imbalance.  Keep in mind we are trying to help the players that fly low eny planes as well as help the countries with low numbers.

Perked planes and GVs have an impact on the map win but low eny planes just don't have that much of influence.

HTC could just harden the strats up for all countries like the HQ and drop eny restrictions.  That would work for me just as well.  Strat control gives the larger player countries and advantage.

ENy restrictions never bother me but I do feel sorry for those that can not fly the plane of their choice excluding perk planes.

[bustr]

You are still asking for some kind of handicapping to help the equality of outcomes in the face of some nights you have all the cards, and some nights you get your kester handed to you. With the strats out of play, you will find another reason to ask for handicapping against unequal outcomes.

ENY itself is beginning to show a dark side by triggering too often with too few players for it to be relevant like it was with 300-600 player nights. We are also seeing a stark reality of human beings that was hidden by 300-600 player nights. 80% of any group are not very motivated or as talented as 20% who reap most of the rewards.

Ultimately the handicapping is to make the 20% put on 200lb lead weight vests like Phar lap was handicapped so the 80% feel better about themselves.

[popeye]

Um... no, it's not about "motivation" or "talent" -- it's about numbers.

[caldera]

Um... no, it's not about "motivation" or "talent" -- it's about numbers.

Whenever another country starts steamrolling bases, the base rollers on country channel start telling everyone how "organized" the other team is.   

[Chalenge]

It would not be a viable solution to allow the smaller team to have more 'effective' supplies, but that's the sense I get from this "wish."

[Randy1]

It would not be a viable solution to allow the smaller team to have more 'effective' supplies, but that's the sense I get from this "wish."

No, not more effective supplies.  The amount of ords required to damage the starts would go up if a side imbalance or the strat rebuild time is lessened.  Or what ever HTC deemed best.  The point is ENY has little affect on side imbalance.  ENY restrictions just hacks people off.

Keep in mind a single plane can set up a tank base or port for capture just bu killing a few acks and it stays that way for 2 hours.  No player wants to sit there guarding the map room for two hours.  If your numbers are low you can't do it anyway.

[Chalenge]

Similar effect Randy. I just don't see it happening.

[Randy1]

What I try to do with my wishes is offering different ideas to improve the game.

[bustr]

ENY is the best example of punishing players for not doing something against their self interest in the game. It was imposed by Hitech without input from the community to save the community from itself. Since then any subsequent ideas the community has come up with entails punishing others for not making right minded choices, being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or being too good at playing the game.

No one has come up with any ideas, they have always put lacy drapes on some variation of "punishment" to force up to 2\3 of the arena population to act against their own self interests. Players pay $14.95 out of self interest, not for social justice. You can see how that is working with ENY.

Currently the game is populated with a majority of veteran players who are unwilling to put any more energy into the game than it takes to pick a few kills and feel good about themselves. They know just how much effort to expend to not get towered while looking for the moment to pick someone. And they are good enough at the game that the veterans chasing them can end up with a draw on their engagements, if no one is trolling around poised to pick. Punishing veterans will not change their knowledge of how good or bad they are at the game and how they play the game to compensate.   

Every invitational group activity like the "Kill Kraby" or "Monday Night Madness" with their conduct rules ended up with the players compensating for their own self interest once they reached the limit of their abilities so they could win fights. In 15 years, all of the ideas to improve the game like you want to thrown out here, are frilly drapes to try and make appealing punishing players for none compliance, or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time while seeking to win any way they can for their $14.95.

Let Hitech decide how he wants to punish his paying customers for playing to win at a personal combat game. A good idea would be how to give them more ways to indulge personally winning for their $14.95. I've seen very few of those over the years.

[Randy1]

Bustr, that is like saying we do not need traffic lights since it is punishing those that do not want to stop.