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Offline oboe

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Clipboard map
« on: January 12, 2017, 02:48:20 PM »
A while ago a returning player gave a fairly harsh critique of AH3, saying among other things that the graphics or colors were visually assaulting.  That stuck with me, and I believe one of the things he could have been referring to is the clipboard map:


For kicks, I made an attempt at reducing the clutter and busyness of the map above.  I reduced the saturation and opacity of the land layer, changed the ocean color to be more consistent with a typical physical map, with coastal shallows depicted as a lighter shade of blue.  I reduced the color saturation and size of all the map icons and removed the chess piece graphic because it has such a DOS-character set look to it and its redundant anyway; the color of the icon being an indication of the owning country.  Radar coverage areas are shown shaded now rather that white circles.   I chose a simple sans serif font for a cleaner look, and the labels are more tightly placed to the icons.

The map below shows all of the the same information displayed on the original above, it's the same scale and area shown.   The reduction in icon and label font size think helped the readability a lot:



I guess my wish would be for a more map-like clipboard map, with a less cluttered look.
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 02:53:38 PM »
I am in favor of something along this line. +1  I have adjusted to the new icons etc but I must say I am not a fan of the style.  It is cluttered and difficult to parse and just IMO doesn't look good.

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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 02:55:13 PM »
Very nice.
I like how the base info/alt is outlined in black.  Makes it much easier to read.

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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 02:56:02 PM »
Most stunning difference indeed <S>.
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2017, 03:09:43 PM »
I like it alot. But the side icons is a necessary evil. Unless the map can coded to put a suffix to the base name. IE: A1 be comes  A1B, A1K, or A1R.
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2017, 03:24:07 PM »
While I understand your suggestion "I like the radar display" your text & icon size are non starters. For me to read the text I had to make your map full screen.

Normally the clip board map is taking up less the 1/2 the vertical height of the screen.

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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2017, 03:26:08 PM »
OR a simple legend: ROOK =  ORANGE, Knights =YELLOW in this case.  Where the color name is just a Bar (couldn't make that happen in here)
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2017, 03:27:12 PM »
Anyway to make map icon FONT size a constant sized font? Or is that coding nightmare?
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2017, 03:34:01 PM »
A minor thing here, but the Spawn point color (yellow) does not contrast enough with the map background making it hard to read sometimes.
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2017, 03:37:11 PM »
Don't think the sector numbers need to be quite so prominent, but that's just a font size change.

How would you indicate disabled radar?  As it is now, a red radar circle indicates that it is disabled, but still shows where the "flash-the-base" boundary is.
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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »
Anyway to make map icon FONT size a constant sized font? Or is that coding nightmare?

Define constant size? Because I can think of at least 3 definitions.

1. Al lways the same size on screen.
2. All ways the same size relative to the clip board.
3. All ways the same size relative to the map.

Currently they are a combination of 2 & 3

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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2017, 03:49:19 PM »
The main improvements in the above I see are the black outline around the font, the lack of a line on the dar ring, and the size of the icons.  Shrinking the map icons alone would IMO be an enormous improvement, regardless of if the font  size never changed.  Another solution, make the font and font size adjustable?

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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2017, 03:54:43 PM »
How would you indicate disabled radar?  As it is now, a red radar circle indicates that it is disabled, but still shows where the "flash-the-base" boundary is.

Different color?  Customizable for both?

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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2017, 04:01:24 PM »
Define constant size? Because I can think of at least 3 definitions.

1. Al lways the same size on screen.
2. All ways the same size relative to the clip board.
3. All ways the same size relative to the map.

Currently they are a combination of 2 & 3

From my testing, I would have guessed it was option #1.   I took screen shots of the clipboard at 3 different map zoom levels - one fully zoomed out, one at about the same zoom as the sample maps above, and one zoomed almost all the way in.  In each case, the physical space in the image taken up by the airfield label "A118" was 57x19 pixels...I think a label that would change its physical size in response to the zoom level might solve the readability issue - you just zoom in until its readable.  Or allowing users to change font and size of the labels themselves could work too?

For reference, I shrunk the map icons 50% from their original size.



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Re: Clipboard map
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2017, 04:16:36 PM »
I did not read his request corectly, I was referring to the icons zoom.

Font size is #2 always ,same size relative to the clip board.

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