long standing issue with views

[caldera]

This problem dates back to AH2.  Certain airplanes have restricted cockpit views that obscure some of the gauges.  I have my fwd hat switch mapped to look fwd view.  While holding this position on the hat, I moved the view using page down and arrows to get the best view possible of the gauges.  Now every plane has limits on how low and how far back you can move but on certain planes, it is impossible to see all of the gauges.  Changing FOV has no effect.

Here are two views from the La-5.  The first is the maximum view I can get with the fwd hat switch.  The second is the fwd hat switch + F8, which enables free look.





It is impractical to use F8 in conjunction with the hat switch, because the views are set to work in F1 mode and F8 makes it impossible to use the hat.  To return to normal, you would have to hit F1 and anytime you need to check your gauges, repeat the whole process.

The La isn't the only plane I have issues with:

A6M - many gauges blocked
F4U - oil and engine temp gauges blocked
Hurricane - many gauges blocked
I-16 - many gauges blocked
Ki-43 - many gauges blocked
Me-410 - can see all the gauges, but only from too far away to read them
P-38 - flap gauge partially to mostly blocked, depending on model
Spitfire - ammo counters, fuel gauges blocked on all models.

[Owlblink]

Not sure what you are looking for in response from the help & training section.

My best answer is for you to get TrackIR to allow you to look around your cockpit better if you are having trouble with hat switch limitations. In RL things are the same in a plane, you don't have a nice view of everything in one angle of vision for these warbirds. Sometimes you have to move your head,etc. i can see how some gauges are in weird places due to objects that a real pilot could move but in most cases you can look wround them in game.

Try posting in the wishlist if you are looking for further changes to saved head positions.

[FLS]

This problem dates back to AH2.  Certain airplanes have restricted cockpit views that obscure some of the gauges.  ...

That is why the default front view in AH3 was tilted down to make the gauges visible with an 80 degree FOV. If you reset your views the default views are still in the "defaulthps" folder and you can copy them to the "settings/planes" folder.

[caldera]

That is why the default front view in AH3 was tilted down to make the gauges visible with an 80 degree FOV. If you reset your views the default views are still in the "defaulthps" folder and you can copy them to the "settings/planes" folder.

I did manage to find and switch to the default views.  With the default forward view, I can see all the gauges, but just barely after using page down and back arrow (80 FOV).

The problem there is that to get a straight ahead view, I have to be holding my hat switch fwd all the time.  That's a worse problem than the one I have now. 



 
Is there any way to get just a view of the whole gauge panel that I can paste into my fwd hat switch setting?  Something about this plane and a few others - the page down arrow and back arrow seem to have a very limited range compared to the rest of the plane set.   

[Dobs]

Something is wrong if you have to hat forward (up) to see forward.  Should default there....and hat forward (up) should be a 45 degree up view in level views...

Also, I think default FOV is not set high enough.

From first splash screen, check video settings, and change default FOV to 105 and  see if that fixes it.

Here is what my view in LA5 looks like....no HAT switches pressed.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYZGJUdzdTdmx6NkE/view?usp=sharing

[caldera]

Something is wrong if you have to hat forward (up) to see forward.  Should default there....and hat forward (up) should be a 45 degree up view in level views...

Also, I think default FOV is not set high enough.

From first splash screen, check video settings, and change default FOV to 105 and  see if that fixes it.

Here is what my view in LA5 looks like....no HAT switches pressed.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYZGJUdzdTdmx6NkE/view?usp=sharing

I need hat switch forward because the default view is looking at a downward angle.  I would instead like to see that view when I use the hat fwd button (which is basically how all my adjusted views are now, using the fwd button to see the gauges - but it doesn't work in this case).  In the meantime, I have gone back to my old view, which is straight out the front of the cockpit and will have to use F8 to see all the gauges.

As for FOV, my screenshots in this thread were taken at 100.  I need at least 116 to be able to see all the gauges completely.  For some reason or other, the view will never go as low as on most other planes.


edit: when I tried the default views, I set FOV to 80 as FLS mentioned.   I'll go back and try the default views with a wider FOV....

[Dobs]

Did you change the "default view"? 

I am a little confused by the "default is downward angled" comment....

I find my default (non zoom enabled) FOV is more gauge centered (i.e. I see them all, as I posted above)..but if I enable zoom (which is what I fly in) then I cut off the bottom half of my instrument panel and am able to see more above the canopy bow (which is what I want for fighting).

Non zoom toggled view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYZWVaNWtOXzltNzA/view?usp=sharing


Zoom toggled view (but not zoomed in)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYYzl2cDJvODI0cEU/view?usp=sharing

[caldera]

Did you change the "default view"? 

I am a little confused by the "default is downward angled" comment....

I transferred my adjusted views from AH2.  AH3 views have a slight downward angle:

That is why the default front view in AH3 was tilted down to make the gauges visible with an 80 degree FOV. If you reset your views the default views are still in the "defaulthps" folder and you can copy them to the "settings/planes" folder.

I swapped out my views for default only on the planes that were giving me trouble.  All fixed now. 

On a related note, here is the C.202 default view (copied from AH2) and my adjusted view using the fwd hat switch:






90% of the planes allow me to do this but the La-5 and others for some reason wouldn't.  I prefer the straight AH2 views rather than the tilted AH3 views.

[hitech]

Next time simply press Home and the F10

[caldera]

Next time simply press Home and the F10

I tried that.  That just gave me the AH2 default view.  I copied my views over from AH2.

[hitech]

I tried that.  That just gave me the AH2 default view.  I copied my views over from AH2.

Is it possible you had read only files some how?

HiTech

[caldera]

Is it possible you had read only files some how?

HiTech

Not sure what you mean but I remember always having the same problem in AH2.  Certain planes just did not allow your view to go low enough to see the whole dash.  In fact, I think I made a bug thread about it years ago.

[hitech]

I think I found your issue.

Are you simply moving your head forward? If so it would move into the dash not the gun sight.

You would need to hit the home key before useing the view forward key, then save.

Please test this for me as follows.

Delete or rename the settings/planes/c202.hps file.

Start flight in the c202 sit on runway, your view should be looking slightly down.

Move forward, and the view should be moving toward the dash, like your 2nd picture.

Press home, the gun sight dot should now be in the center of the screen.

Move forward and you should be moving toward the gun sight.

Press F10.

That should now be your default view.

HiTech

[Traveler]

Not sure what you mean but I remember always having the same problem in AH2.  Certain planes just did not allow your view to go low enough to see the whole dash.  In fact, I think I made a bug thread about it years ago.

I think this problem is unique to you.  Something that you did.  you may want to delete all the files, uninstall and re-install AH3.  At least that way you would be starting from a level playing field.

[caldera]

I think I found your issue.

Are you simply moving your head forward? If so it would move into the dash not the gun sight.

You would need to hit the home key before useing the view forward key, then save.

Please test this for me as follows.

Delete or rename the settings/planes/c202.hps file.

Start flight in the c202 sit on runway, your view should be looking slightly down.

Move forward, and the view should be moving toward the dash, like your 2nd picture.

Press home, the gun sight dot should now be in the center of the screen.

Move forward and you should be moving toward the gun sight.

Press F10.

That should now be your default view.

HiTech

I did hit the home key and saved before fwd key.  And I was trying to move backwards and down actually.  The pictures of the C.202 are my AH2 settings that were imported to AH3 and was a demonstration of how I got to see gauges in my planes in AH2 (and most planes in AH3).  There is nothing wrong with my C.202 views, as all the gauges are clearly visible in the screen shots.  I was having trouble with the La-5 and several other planes, but fixed the issue by deleting my old views and using the AH3 default views on those few planes.

So the matter has been resolved, but thanks anyway.