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Offline guncrasher

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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2017, 08:14:12 PM »
You can neutralize the harmful effects by mixing a bit with Whiskey.

I prefer freezing dihydrogen monoxide.  mix with vodka tonic and lime to kill any bacteria.  or if you want to really be adventurous you can freeze dihydrogen oxide.  but that is for experts only.


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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2017, 08:14:42 PM »
I agree  :aok
And yet the powers that be let them stay on their parents insurance until
age 26  :furious

I had similar thoughts reading through this page.  The kids need to let out of the nest so they can fall a little and grasp the real world.  Waiting till 24 to to face the real world could have some drawbacks.

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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2017, 08:54:19 PM »
Just remember, blaming a younger generation is a lack of taking responsibility by the older generation.  Which is often what the younger generation is blamed with.  But the older generation was tasked with raising the younger, and by their own admission, failed.  The older generation always carries the true blame.
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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2017, 02:21:23 AM »
It's kind of funny to blame the younger generation for not knowing things while at the same time we older people make laws about having this and that security device. Back in our youth, or in the youth of our parents, we didn't have CO warning detectors. We just had to know when it's safe to shut the damper. And we all knew someone who had heard about someone who hadn't known and is now six feet under...

When my parents were young the monitor had to come to school earlier to set fire in the classroom oven. Now it's prohibited to sell matches for people under 18.

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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2017, 09:45:32 AM »
I weep for my generation and their offspring...     We (35 and under) should have to have a licence to have kids...

Seems like all the bad stuff that is regulated can cause damage in a hurry (guns, knives, matches, vehicles, drones, drugs, etc, ).... but what about the slow, subtle danger that is raising (or lack thereof) kids and indoctrinated them with bad behavior and even worse manners.

Wow i must be getting old after re-reading this post... .... Get off my lawn...  :furious
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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2017, 10:23:25 AM »
Way back when I was young they taught about carbon monoxide in elementary school. But that was not in America...  :old:

Bizman and TC hit the nail on the head.  The public should be educated about the hazards of CO.  For 38 years I directed the Iron making operations of the largest producers of CO.

Blast furnaces.  The process of smelting Iron Ore produces HUGE quantities of CO.  As a matter of fact they produce 100s' of thousands of cubic feet per minute!  The gas that blast

furnaces produce is used to fuel Boiler Houses and the Stoves that heat the wind that blow through the stoves to temps of up to 2200 degrees F.  The Steam that is produced by

the boiler house powers a turbine blower that creates the "wind" that is then heated by the stoves.  Blast furnaces will produce around 200K cfm of CO per min.  We try to harness it and contain it,

but sometimes mechanical and electrical failures can spread an entire area with CO to the rate of over 500 parts per million.  Deadly levels and explosive levels.  I have seen CO completely

destroy a dust catcher, (a huge cylindrical vessel around 50 feet high) and completely blow off bulkheads that are 92 inches in circumference with approximately 140 1 inch bolts holding

the bulkhead in place and tossing it over 200 yards bouncing off I beams and going through a house trailer 125 yards away...and the bulkhead kept on going.  The reason OSHA got involved

with CO detection and limits is this.  Around 1977 a stovetender (one who heats and puts stoves ON the furnace and who takes them OFF the furnace to heat them) was spotted down on the

stove deck.  A co-worker went out to see what was wrong went down also because of the CO.  Both were then spotted down and, in the end I am sorry to say 9 men succumbed to CO poisoning.

I remember to this day this accident.  All who work on Blast furnaces are a brotherhood.  There are few of us that do this work and the knowledge of what goes on working on blast furnaces is

basically only known to those of us that make iron.  There are probably more attorneys in a town of 80,000 then there are of us in North America.  Point is YOU DON"T KNOW how deadly CO

can be.  Please use CO monitors!  At the right levels your home can literally explode.  CO is odorless, you can't smell it.  I have been gassed and thanks to CO monitoring at work and knowing the symptoms

(one can be completely conscious being "gassed" but laying there with no control over your muscle system, motionless. You are lying there realizing you are about to die and you can do nothing about it.)

Although now retired,  I still have the OSHA book at home.  This reminds me that many good men died because of CO poisoning.  PLEASE USE CO MONITORS IN YOUR HOME!
 
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« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2017, 12:46:43 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2017, 01:09:06 PM »
Good advice Hajo.

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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2017, 02:15:01 PM »
Hajo, how does CO destroy a dust catcher?

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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2017, 03:09:57 PM »
I blame myself for my kids lack of drive / adventure / life knowledge.... left them to get hooked on the sinternet so now they are ill informed of how it all actually works when not in your room living life for real.... I have cotton wooled my kids and I hate it.....I think they rode a bike all of 10 times... why did I do it...don't know...living to the hype of society I spose..... dumb dumb dumb.....at 18 and there is no way any of them could live outside of the house....my boy has started working now and has become aware of costs which is a big surprise to him.... oh you have to pay for the gas you use...the power to run the refrigerator filled with the food you had to buy.... no wonder I couldn't have the new iPhone each time they came out hahahaha...

One of the funniest moments I had was when my son turned 16...we went out to do paintball...on the way all the boys were talking it up and how they were going to do this and that like in the game .... first real hit ..hahahahaha   I so wish I was recording... one guy refuse to continue playing..... they thought they were so tough till it became a reality.... I got talking with them about it afterwards.... and just reiterated....just remember....these aren't even real bullets.... your games glamorize they unfortunate reality...there is no re spawn in real life... 

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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2017, 04:56:02 PM »
Way back when I was young they taught about carbon monoxide in elementary school. But that was not in America...  :old:

Same here! But I suppose Alaska is only 'kinda' America..  :D
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« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2017, 01:35:44 AM »
---I suppose Alaska is only 'kinda' America..  :D

You're probably right. It used to be a backyard for Siberia until America purchased it. As you know, money can't buy what really matters.  :D

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« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2017, 02:01:03 AM »
The male brain does not reach full maturity until age 26.  The female brain does not reach full maturity until age 24.  This maturation process is due to the neuropeptides NGF (nerve growth factor) and BDNF (brain derived neurotrophic factor).  Stress, trauma, drugs, or alcohol can stop this maturation process.  This is why a lot of people you may know have a juvenile personality.

And we play a WWII cartoon combat sim and have mature discussions on world events on vox :rofl
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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2017, 01:58:12 PM »
The male brain does not reach full maturity until age 26.  The female brain does not reach full maturity until age 24.  This maturation process is due to the neuropeptides NGF (nerve growth factor) and BDNF (brain derived neurotrophic factor).  Stress, trauma, drugs, or alcohol can stop this maturation process.  This is why a lot of people you may know have a juvenile personality.

Until post WW2 America, many factors forced the reality of death and the necessity of early entry into the labor pool to rapidly speed parts of the development process up. The 1980 and forward generation in the US is probably the most protected population group in the history of the human species from any kind of dangerous reality or societal demands. Drug and alcohol abuse starting in your teens creates emotionally stunted adults who may take into their 40-50's to grow up and stop over compensating for their insecurities, ploys for attention\self aggrandizement and validation, along other substance abuse side effects.

Still, get out of urban population centers, and many of the 1980 and forward generation are pretty normal because they have to work for a living after leaving High School. And I bet in Alaska the realities of winter make it hard to not be normal.
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Re: The sad state of basic knowledge among america's young adults.
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2017, 02:04:58 PM »
I remember when I was young in the 70s reading about between up killing family members because the furnace would break down and they would bring their trusty charcoal grill inside.

Stupidity is not just reserved for the youth.


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