Fuel Octane differences?

[Guppy35]

The Spit LF Vc was last V and is a 1942 bird and not representative for the V that fought in many famous battles in North Africa and over the Channel in late-1940 and 1941 against 109Fs and later the 190A. The AH Spit IX is a 1942 version meant to fill the slot for an early IX vs 190A time frame. The Spit XVI is for all intents and purposes a clipped wing Spit LF IX and fills that role for late war IXs. There's also the VIII for a full wing Merlin 66 Spit.

LOL Thanks for the Spitfire education 

You prove the point.  What you just typed is what's been said by me and others any number of times regarding the Spit line up.  It's representative even if not exactly historical.  Having flown the 41 Spit Vb in a 43 scenario, it was certainly evident it was not an LF V.

The point is the same for the 150 octane fuel.  Players bemoan Runstangs, Spit 16s, etc.  Now imagine the whining if they had the performance from 150 octane.  I truly believe we don't have 150 octane for that very reason, play-ability.

[PR3D4TOR]

I'd like to see 100/145 and 100/150 Spits and Ponies, but with a perk tag on them.

[Guppy35]

I'd like to see 100/145 and 100/150 Spits and Ponies, but with a perk tag on them.

And again this was discussed many times.  I'm not saying not to talk about it.  Just don't expect much to change if anything

First question I'd answer, is how would it benefit the game play?  Why this fuel change, but not an LFVc then?  You get the idea?

[PR3D4TOR]

I would love to see the LF Vc back (preferably a clipped wing), as long as they keep the current Vb as well. The more the merrier. I've never understood people who argue against including something historically accurate to the game.

[PR3D4TOR]

And the Vc Trop...

[nrshida]

Oh you mean the documentation that showed that for a time 2/3 crashed on takeoff from the factory into the trees, making the people who built them sad?

Two thirds went off the factory runway into the trees you say? Documented. What was 'for a time' defined as? Months, days, minutes? And they also documented that it made people sad? How did they document their sadness? This is intriguing. Only Krusty knows such things 

[save]

R4M for Me262 and  Fw190's clusterbombs for Russian and German attack-planes.... 100 octane fuel 1940 during Bob for Bf109s for a slight perk cost.

Think about the new guys with no or few perkes, who already get clubbed, against some in here with 40k+ perk points to spend.

I prefer it the way it is.

I'd like to see 100/145 and 100/150 Spits and Ponies, but with a perk tag on them.

[Guppy35]

I would love to see the LF Vc back (preferably a clipped wing), as long as they keep the current Vb as well. The more the merrier. I've never understood people who argue against including something historically accurate to the game.

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It isn't about arguing against.  It's realizing you have to factor in the size of the company, the development time and priorities as well as game play for the newbies to the vets. 

I've lived and breathed Spitfire XIIs since 1980.  Would I love to have one in AH?  Absolutely.  Would it be the best use of resources and would it benefit the game?  Probably not.  Think of the howls now about Spit 16s which are nothing more than LF IXs with American made Merlins.  Now add a 1943 low level beast in a Spitfire XII and they'd probably have the pitchforks and torches out for HTC.

[Oldman731]

Now add a 1943 low level beast in a Spitfire XII and they'd probably have the pitchforks and torches out for HTC.

Nah.  They'd just rename the game "Spitdweebs Low."

- oldman

[thrila]

How about a compromise and give the spits the option for the 45 and 90 gallon drop tanks- at least for scenarios.

[Oldman731]

How about a compromise and give the spits the option for the 45 and 90 gallon drop tanks- at least for scenarios.

Hah!  Everyone knows Spits didn't have drop tanks!

- oldman

[Guppy35]

Funny part is that discussion took place a while ago.  It was agreed the 30 was the best compromise as it was the standard tank once the Spits got the ability to carry DTs. 

[thrila]

Hah!  Everyone knows Spits didn't have drop tanks!

- oldman

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Funny part is that discussion took place a while ago.  It was agreed the 30 was the best compromise as it was the standard tank once the Spits got the ability to carry DTs. 

The 30 gallon was the most common but the 90 gallon was certainly not rare. I'm not fussed for MA use, but it would certainly be handy for scenarios. I remember the thread discussing rationalising the spitfire tree in AH, i can't seem to find it though.

I've been listening to oral histories hosted on the IWM site (I would recommend listening to a couple, they're very interesting). I was listening Wing Commander Peter Parrott's WWII experiences recently and in one of his tapes he talks about how he pulled the lever so hard to drop his tank he broke it.   It's about 3 hours long in begins with his experiences in France 1940 all the way up to his post WWII experiences. It can be found here: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80012874

BTW this hijack was unintentional. Sorry.

[RODBUSTR]

Virtually all the german planes were optimized to burn 87 octane that I know of.

[morfiend]

Virtually all the german planes were optimized to burn 87 octane that I know of.

  Hmmm what octane was the jet fuel? and what about the planes that used C3 fuel like the 190's?