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Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« on: February 02, 2017, 07:23:18 PM »
There are two Ta 152's still available for the upcoming "Hell Over the Hinterland" scenario (air combat during Battle of the Bulge).

One of them is YOURS!  :aok

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http://ahevents.net/index.php/events/scenarios/current-or-next-scenario


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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 12:53:17 AM »
Hmm I do like the 152  :D
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 03:52:19 PM »
Yea but remember, you have to be able to fly it! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :D :D :D :D :D :D :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :bolt:

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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2017, 04:08:35 PM »
I am not able to get the time off from work or I would be all over this, and I would smite thee in it.
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 08:03:52 PM »
One of the Ta 152's has the name "Krusty" painted on as pilot name.  :aok

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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2017, 08:19:37 AM »
Why that little!!!  :furious

I'll sue for copyright infringement! What? Fox is calling? Uhm... never mind that copyright comment.  :uhoh

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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2017, 02:24:44 AM »
I am not able to get the time off from work or I would be all over this, and I would smite thee in it.

don't know how well you would do <20k  with some beast mode Allied aircraft hunting you down!     :D
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2017, 08:14:30 AM »
Well... to be fair, it bests the spit16 and p47 for speed at any alt. The tempest may be faster but I would wager the Ta has better turning ability with those long wings. However, there's only 2 tempests as well, so chances of a Ta v. Temp fight would probably be slim. The P-51D would be a contender, but there's also only 6 of those and depending on how the fight unfolds I'd probably give the edge to a well-flown Ta instead of the P-51.

Theoretically... "theoretically" mind you... the Ta152 is the best plane in the set at the moment. Assuming you don't let a complete yobbo like Krusty into one.


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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2017, 08:30:44 AM »
Well... to be fair, it bests the spit16 and p47 for speed at any alt. The tempest may be faster but I would wager the Ta has better turning ability with those long wings. However, there's only 2 tempests as well, so chances of a Ta v. Temp fight would probably be slim. The P-51D would be a contender, but there's also only 6 of those and depending on how the fight unfolds I'd probably give the edge to a well-flown Ta instead of the P-51.

Theoretically... "theoretically" mind you... the Ta152 is the best plane in the set at the moment. Assuming you don't let a complete yobbo like Krusty into one.


Oh, wait.  :x
You are giving the TA152 too much credit....Above 20K it's a rockstar but below that it's comparable to a early/Mid war fighters.
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2017, 10:55:20 AM »
I may be rusty as sin, but I flew a LOT of midwar planes. I enjoyed C2s to no end, I loved P-40s, I enjoyed P-39s. I was found often flying 109Es and Fs in the LWA.

I can say without any doubt whatsoever that the 152 is uber compared to anything you could classify as "midwar" -- and holds its own 1v1 against most other planes in the game. That's across all types of engagement, and at all alts. It's not "the best" but it's definitely on the top end of the spectrum. Much like a Spit14, nobody takes the time to learn how to fly it properly to appreciate this. They just try to use it to run or only BnZ targets. You have to fly it halfway between a 109K and a 190D.

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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2017, 11:27:51 AM »
The TA in the right hands is deadly at any altitude :)
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2017, 11:56:14 AM »
Who was it that really used to dominate in it? Moot? Is he still around? Does he want in on the scenario?  :x

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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2017, 12:49:31 PM »
I may be rusty as sin, but I flew a LOT of midwar planes. I enjoyed C2s to no end, I loved P-40s, I enjoyed P-39s. I was found often flying 109Es and Fs in the LWA.

I can say without any doubt whatsoever that the 152 is uber compared to anything you could classify as "midwar" -- and holds its own 1v1 against most other planes in the game. That's across all types of engagement, and at all alts. It's not "the best" but it's definitely on the top end of the spectrum. Much like a Spit14, nobody takes the time to learn how to fly it properly to appreciate this. They just try to use it to run or only BnZ targets. You have to fly it halfway between a 109K and a 190D.
Other then Zoney I probably have the most time logged in the 152 these days....It's problems when fighting are it's a 190 without the roll rate but the power of a dora but not the top speed.

What I mean it doesn't roll like an A5 can so it struggles a bit there and often leads to the 152 flat spin most experience in it. It has the power of the dora so like the dora or K4(or any 109) it can hang on it's prop well which opens up some performance in vertical scissors....not as much as a dora or P51D though (P51 has the added flaps which make it more formidable)

I don't remember how Moot flew it (people have told me he turned with Spit 16s which doesn't make sense unless he was flat out cheating) but I imagine he was using a mix of it's ability to accelerate quickly in a dive with its ability to hang on its prop to fight vs planes turning...which makes it look like he's "turn fighting" but really he's E fighting.

An example of that is in this film from 40-120....what your seeing is almost a rolling scissors but a very elongated one on my end which is causing him to lose energy giving me the ability to go vertical against him....this is the situation I try to press in all engagements in the 152....a time where my opponent energy state is near mine where he has enough to think he will climb with me but underestimates the speed I gained in a very shallow quick dive (also what I do on BRDs)

[youtube]https://youtu.be/6pWCVcZOANE[youtube]

Point I'll leave is this...Probably the best match up for the TA152 in a low alt fight is the P47D11 (early war plane)....about 20K it gets its real handle to it. I'm better in a 152 then most...but I'll lose 10 out of 10 under 20K vs myself in a P51D just because the P51 can fight in a more All around manner, it's characteristics of high speed handling, flaps, uber rudder allow it to do so.
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Re: Hey, who wants a Ta 152? Because . . .
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2017, 12:53:43 PM »
I'll fight anyone P47D25 vs a TA152...deck merge (me in the Jug) to provide proof of my claims....only way the 152 has a shot is by an E merge to get a rope but I'll be E merging every time so that won't work...once it's in rolling scissors (which most fights progress to) it's over....

Only times I've won a fight without an E merge is because I notice a mistake in their merge.
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