Please fix Mini-Warps/Glitchy aircraft movement

[bustr]

Lots of 200 complaints last night about this.

Rud3boi and I were apparently very glitchy.

Others were shooting people and seeing nothing happen to find out later they were hitting by getting a kill or assist conformation. I was shooting people all night not seeing hits on them getting assist conformations or not seeing sprites and then their plane fell apart or disappeared. 200 had conversations about lagging and mini warping funky chickening, then the guys involved would report normal net stat. It did help a Brewster and A5 pilot demonstrate classic funky chicken maneuvering who I just couldn't hit from 100ft along with the hail storm of rounds passing over my shoulder trying to help me hit them. For sometime a number of my squad mates would key up on VOX with silence.

Was there some large scale issue with backbone routers last night on the internet in the U.S.A.?

[BowHTR]

[Ramesis]

Hmmm... now just when is the U.S. giving up
control of the net?
Just wondering 

[Vinkman]

reminds me of the Complaints from WairWarrior about "Spinning".  I pilot could yank the plane into a stall, induce a flat spin, and wiggle the stick and recover...resuming level flight at speed. It was like you could make 90-180 deg turns in the sky with no E-loss.

I remember "ZY" was the spin king, using it in every fight. really ruined ACM.

I never saw a case of it in AH2.   

[Zoney]

 

[JOACH1M]

There is some sort of input lag to what the other person sees.....the manuevers don't look natural and are hard to track. I call it GHIing

the "Ghi" move is one of my most used and favorite moves

[JunkyII]

the "Ghi" move is one of my most used and favorite moves

It's just gamey and not a skillful manuever, I do it all the time in an A20 or in a last case scenario, slam the stick forward add a bit of rudder and some left right jigs...on your end it doesn't seem that aggressive but from their end it looks closer to a snap roll

[nrshida]

hail storm of rounds passing over my shoulder trying to help me hit them.

That's the God of ACM punishing you for gangtarding. Only the vulchers sit beneath you in cartoon hell you know. 

It's just gamey and not a skillful manuever, I do it all the time in an A20 or in a last case scenario, slam the stick forward add a bit of rudder and some left right jigs...on your end it doesn't seem that aggressive but from their end it looks closer to a snap roll

Sounds a bit like the Hartmann manoeuvre. Perfectly legitimate & documented real-life manoeuvre. There was a DA pilot that had perfected the timing. Never saw anyone else in AH do it cleanly.

Think lag and warping needs to be separated from funky manouevres in the complaint. The conclusion of the most recent round of arguments about the F4U flaps apparently concluded that because of so much stick time us virtual pilots have - all bets are now off about manoeuvres 'not-in-the-book'. Could be the case that some of those especially cause lag.

[FESS67]

Lots of 200 complaints last night about this.

Rud3boi and I were apparently very glitchy.

I was one of those voicing the issue the other night.  I got into consecutive fights against Rud3 and then JO and as I am tracking them at very close quarters their planes change aspect so I adjust and then suddenly they change back again.  I correct again but in a marginal fight it is enough to put me out of position and then it is game over.  Tonight I had the same issue, was all over a 190 and then the jiggity jiggity dance begins, I cannot follow and as I break off there he is, full control and hitting me.  I got away with it but it is utter crap that it even happened in the first place.  The pilot I was against tonight was called Judge.

Rud3, I know you were getting upset about it but I made no suggestion that it was deliberate, just that it happened.  You took that as some slight on your ability however, please consider it from my perspective, I have a solution and suddenly there is a micro warp / lag / flop / twitch....whatever it is and then I have no solution.  Very frustrating from my end.  I posted a film the other week with JO when I had a shot and as I took it his plane skipped and no shot.....Grrr.  There is 'something' in AH that allows this to happen and it is not fun to be on the receiving end.

[JunkyII]

That's the God of ACM punishing you for gangtarding. Only the vulchers sit beneath you in cartoon hell you know. 


Sounds a bit like the Hartmann manoeuvre. Perfectly legitimate & documented real-life manoeuvre. There was a DA pilot that had perfected the timing. Never saw anyone else in AH do it cleanly.

Think lag and warping needs to be separated from funky manouevres in the complaint. The conclusion of the most recent round of arguments about the F4U flaps apparently concluded that because of so much stick time us virtual pilots have - all bets are now off about manoeuvres 'not-in-the-book'. Could be the case that some of those especially cause lag.

Hartmann could make his plane defy gravity? Because thats what this looks like...it isnt ACM, its a rendering issue either through internet or the game, i think its through internet personally.

[nrshida]

Hartmann could make his plane defy gravity? Because thats what this looks like...it isnt ACM, its a rendering issue either through internet or the game, i think its through internet personally.

I can't comment on what you're seeing in AH3 because I haven't made it there yet, but the manoeuvre you described was used. Likely a zero G manoeuvre for several seconds. I have seen the EAce 190 sand dance which I think exploits lag across the internet but this AH3 thing seems a bit different.

Fess' video about Jo a few weeks back coincided with a load of 50 cals flying. Same with Bruv's story. There has to be peak in data traffic upon firing. Perhaps that'd be a good place to diagnostically start.

[Bruv119]

people are confusing alot of different things in this thread I will post a film of it when it happens again.

Ghi's skill was knowing when his opponent was about to shoot, neg g push at the right time then pull back his plane was not cartwheeling through the virtual sky!

Fess described it perfectly but film is the only proof one can have.   The film with jo in it was just a burp of lag or the dx11 micro warp at the most opportune moment.

shida you'll know exactly what we are talking about when you see it!   

[nrshida]

shida you'll know exactly what we are talking about when you see it!   

Yeah if mate. Bug'll probably be fixed by then 

[icepac]

the "Ghi" move is one of my most used and favorite moves

As long as your entire acm palate doesn't depend on departing from reality, things are fine.

I refuse to embrace any moves that aren't possible in real life......most of the time.

[JunkyII]

Yeah if mate. Bug'll probably be fixed by then 

Watch the very end, this happens often and is what I'm talking about...GHI's plane does exactly this when I shoot at him I just know he's going low so I am there now...ignore my gunnery not being able to shoot using page up anymore is really painful for me