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Offline Puma44

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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2017, 10:21:54 AM »
I dont say its a good idea and i would never even consider turning the engine off in flight, my point was just to show that its possible to turn the engine off and restart it in flight without too much trouble.

....and when it won't start.   What then?  Would that be too much trouble?    In a combat environment is the risk worth it?

HiTech what do you say to a random "no engine restart after an intentional shut down" in game just to make it a bit more challenging?
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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2017, 11:02:59 AM »
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Granted I don't intentionally cut my engine in flight, but if I wanted random failures, I would play flight simulator.
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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2017, 11:12:42 AM »
Why? Its a game. Mechanical failures isnt modeled at all so i see no problem with having the engine starting every time.

Am I misremembering Air Warrior having random mechanicals?
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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2017, 11:53:01 AM »
Am I misremembering Air Warrior having random mechanicals?

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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2017, 01:14:53 PM »

Other than Henry Fonda's doomed escapade, where have you ever heard of this being done before?

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There was a US liaison pilot (Charles "Bazooka Charlie" Carpenter) that had put some bazooka rockets on his L-4 and would fly over enemy territory and would shut of his engine and glide so he could listen and spot German tanks or other ground vehicles.  When he'd find the vehicles, he'd attack with his bazooka rockets.  He was officially credited with 6 tanks destroyed.
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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 01:35:41 PM »
There was a US liaison pilot (Charles "Bazooka Charlie" Carpenter) that had put some bazooka rockets on his L-4 and would fly over enemy territory and would shut of his engine and glide so he could listen and spot German tanks or other ground vehicles.  When he'd find the vehicles, he'd attack with his bazooka rockets.  He was officially credited with 6 tanks destroyed.

Now, there's a guy with big brass ones and thinking outside the box!  Any further info on how successful he was getting the engine restarted?



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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2017, 01:37:19 PM »
You have a good point Puma.  However, I cannot say my GV was ever discovered by a red turning off his engine.  The red might say I can hear a GV.  Hearing is one thing.  Seeing is another.

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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2017, 01:45:56 PM »
You have a good point Puma.  However, I cannot say my GV was ever discovered by a red turning off his engine.  The red might say I can hear a GV.  Hearing is one thing.  Seeing is another.

True Randy.  I have tagged several guys gliding about with their engines shutdown while in a shutdown whirble hiding in the bushes. I could see them but they couldn't hear or see me.  Some have been gracious enough to glide directly over me at low altitude, making the ensuing kill shot very easy.



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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2017, 02:54:02 PM »
Now, there's a guy with big brass ones and thinking outside the box!  Any further info on how successful he was getting the engine restarted?

It wasn't mentioned in the Stars and Stripes interview he did.  This is a picture of his Grasshopper with the bazooka rockets.

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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2017, 03:17:37 PM »
And it gives me a chance to repeat my greatest wish again: Give us the Bazooka-Cub!
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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2017, 04:18:05 PM »
It of course depend on what plane you are in but as long as the prop is windmilling you can just turn the magnetos off to kill the engine and the engine will (hopefully) start when magnetos is turned back on.

But we dont have any dust clouds or track marks that would give away a tank to an aerial spotter so i guess its about even, this is after all a game.

Yeah, you don't want to turn the mags off....creates a risk of fire and a very good way to blow the exhaust system right off the engine when you re-energize.  You shut down an aircraft engine using the mixture control, not the mags.
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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2017, 04:25:31 PM »
It was very common to restart an engine as pilots forgot to switch fuel tanks and the engine would die. They could and did switch tanks and start up again as long as the prop was still windmilling.

There's nothing odd or out of the ordinary with that. (in response to Puma asking about if it was possible)

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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2017, 07:07:22 PM »
Sure it's possible to get a restart.  It's also possible to not get a restart.



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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2017, 07:38:27 PM »
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I hit the e ket by accident a lot in flight. mostly when landing and when the day comes I get more than one kill in a plane and actually survive the ride home I would hate to loose it because I hit the e key by accident

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Re: Shutting off plane engine to listen for GVs
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2017, 08:03:50 PM »
A windmilling prop. making the engine turn is more noise inside the plane than you "hear past".