Any issue using AMD CPU?

[cav58d]

Still on the fence about returning to AH since I have to buy an entirely new rig + peripherals, but I was wondering if an AMD CPU could be an option if I wanted to keep costs down.  Any issues running AH3 with that brand CPU?

[TequilaChaser]

Still on the fence about returning to AH since I have to buy an entirely new rig + peripherals, but I was wondering if an AMD CPU could be an option if I wanted to keep costs down.  Any issues running AH3 with that brand CPU?

cav58d,
I , myself, have used AMD processors almost exclusively the whole time I have been here in aces high going back to the original beta in 1999

I have only built 3 Intel systems for myself to fly  Aces High with ( more so, I built them simply as projects to see how they compared performance wise to the AMD builds I had built over the years to play Aces High with )

I personally have never had any issues with AMD playing Aces High

in another thread titled: AMD Ryzen CPU
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,384435.0.html


Skuzzy had posted the following:

The problem with Aces High running multi-core AMD CPU's had to do with AMD not implementing a high resolution counter for each core, which we depend on.  We still have code in place to detect the design issue and not run multi-threaded on those CPU's.

As to when, or if, it was fixed, I have no idea.

and yes, back in the earlier years of the AMD Dual core CPUs, and more specifically the early revisions of AMD's "high resolution counter" not working properly for each core, a lot of those early dual core and some quad core AMD CPU processors would only use a single core in Aces High..... only a handful of the dual core AMD CPUs were capable of being able to use both cores. This falls on the time line of AMD somewhere between revision 10h & revision  11h ( the 11h family of processors is actually a mixture of both K8 & K10 designs )

from my memory and looking back at some computer builds I had done for Family and friends, those Dual core AMD CPUs with the F3 CPU stepping ( Athlon 64 X2 6400+ BE 3.2GHz Dual core for example ), seemed to be the ones that were capable of using both cores

AMD had found some glitches and a Bug, in which they actually sent a workaround for to the Linux community around 2006?(might have been 2007) and later provided a patch for, this is about the same time that AMD was starting to move on from Dual core ( and Triple Core ) and started building Quad cores

my apologies from the side track:

You should have no problems at all building you a very nice AMD build that will run Aces High and compete right up there equally with it's Intel Equivalent ( or better )

Hope this helps and if I can be of any help send me a PM

TC

[Skuzzy]

At least, AMD is including support, with its new CPU's, for Windows 7/8/8.1.  Intel is not.

[pembquist]

Won't it be nice when pcs become like cars, my truck is 30 years old, my subaru is 17 and our honda is 22 and they all work peachy.

[Bizman]

pembquist, comparing cars to computers is a little problematic. Or, actually not, the problem is in comparing what you should be able to do with them. We should compare programs to minimum speed limits. You don't expect your 30 years old truck to surpass the speed of a High Speed Train/Track with a minimum speed of 155 mph, do you? Cars have become safer and more comfortable during the decades but the speed limits have remained the same or even decreased.

It's kind of funny, people would like their computers run all the latest programs and get mad if their hardware becomes outdated. Yet no-one seems to get angry about Playstation 4 games not running on previous models, they just buy the latest one.

Driving a Mercedes 250 Diesel from 1995 myself...

[pembquist]

Oh I know Bizman, I imagine we are just in the beginnings of VR and AI, not to mention screen size and resolution!, so the demand for increasingly powerful hardware will keep increasing. I was really just thinking how the old hardware just falls off the support chain and gets bricked while it is still completely functional, I guess that is where Ubuntu etc. come in.

[Skuzzy]

I use my old computers for file servers and routers.

[TequilaChaser]

I use my old computers for file servers and routers.

and can also make some Nice Home Servers using FreeNAS ( http://www.freenas.org/ ), below I have grabbed a quick few web articles on the subject  : NAS ( Networked Attached Storage servers)

http://www.tested.com/tech/500455-building-home-server-using-freenas/

https://blog.brianmoses.net/2016/02/diy-nas-2016-edition.html

https://www.engadget.com/2012/02/01/how-to-set-up-a-home-file-server-using-freenas/

I'm not advocating or recommending any of the provided above links, just to be clear!

I went from using Windows Server  2003, to using a  LG brand  NAS model: LG N2B1 (Diskless Enclosure) 2 Bay Super Multi NAS with Blu-ray Disc Rewriter  and used (2) 2 TB Hitachi 3.5" SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Hard Drives, with allowing me to have the following capabilities

• iSCSI Network BluRay-DL ReWriter drive
• Hot Swap HDD capability
• RAID: 0 / 1 / JBOD / Selective Mirroring
• UPnP
• DLNA <--- ability to watch movies, videos or listen to user made Music List from anywhere in the world, from the over 300+ GBs of music files and 800+ movies
• DNS capability - using static IP, to be able to host Mom and Dad's Web Stores ( Web hosting )
• FTP / ATP Server
• Network Printer ( also usable by anyone from anywhere who is Logged into the Server, remotely
• "iTunes Machine" server
• Capability to have 3 different Ext Hard Drives hooked up (1) e SATA, (2) USB --- these ports were on the back and served as backup drives of the LG NAS
• Top Pop-Up access to Card Reader and USB port for Thumb Drive Use
• Ajax & WebDev / software and firmware was Linux, along with Simba? and was Windows 7 compatible

This LG NAS was a sweet little setup, I haven't seen any other Manufacturers come even close to making what LG had built

Hence, the reason I started using FreeNAS /  FreeBSD, and building my own using computers and components not being used, instead of going back to using Windows Server 2008/2012/20** whatever

sorry for hijacking your thread again:

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/

^
^I ran across the above blog earlier this morning and it reminded me of all the heated debates over which is the best Hard Drive Brand, from years back

I'll leave with this url link to a blog Post from a few years ago, regarding Hard Drives and how does one decide which Brand of Hard Drive they should  by... with saying that, I was under the assumption that the Reason Western Digital bought out( or merged?) with Hitachi ( HGST), was due to the major flooding years back that basically put WD, Seagate and some other Brands out of Production for a good while, except if I remember correctly Hitachi  ( HGST ) wasn't affected by all the flooding..... That and IMO, WD realized how much better built /better designed Hitachi Hard Drives were above their own and saw an opportunity and jumped on it... just speculation, heh

maybe someone might find something useful in this post/reply

TC

[Bizman]

Old hardware doesn't stop working with the software it was built for. Quite a many years ago, might have been around the Millennium, I read that NASA still was using 8086 systems just because their software was certified and tested for those. A major safety issue, that is, using proven technology.

[Rash]

keep the code simple and not bloated?

[Bizman]

keep the code simple and not bloated?

If it only were that simple.

In my bonus cd archives there's the full version of WarBirds 1995. If my memory serves me right, the colour scheme was similar to kid's crayon boxes, entry level. Brown cubes as buildings, a green base with a grey stripe as the airfield. Even Minecraft has more colours! Based on the name it could be run on Windows 95 which could use up to 512 MB of RAM and hard disk partitions of 2 GB. And you could fight online with your buddy by telling him your IP address! The installer is 24.5 MB. 

On the disk was this screenshot. Enjoy!