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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2017, 02:18:20 PM »
There cannot be two instances of the same login active at the same time.

If one person is paying for a subscription, the only way his 15 friends could join him, would be if they each had an account.

So the two weekers can't play in a free arena after the two weeks?
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2017, 09:54:12 PM »
So the two weekers can't play in a free arena after the two weeks?

From the way I understand it, there are accounts and there are subscription accounts. A subscription account must make the custom arena, then the free accounts may join that custom arena. The 2 weeks only applies to accounts that don't have subscriptions to the Melee Arena.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2017, 10:04:40 PM »
OK and a goup of gamming teens are worried about the TOS, how could it be enforced?  I know a few guys that play on an account and their  son plays on it also. It's against the TOS, right?

Pretty easily actually. IP 1 from Texas signs on and plays the game then signs off. A hour later IP 2 signs on from Virginia and plays. Flag is sent to HTC due to the time frame between logins associated with the IP address. IP 2 is still logged in and IP 3 attempts to login from California. Flag is again sent to HTC for multiple IPs trying to connect to the account at the same time. If this was being abused between 5-10 people, over time there will be enough information to conclude that the account was being shared.

This is just one simple way, of the many, that it could be done.

Keep in mind that HTC reserves the right to terminate any account at any time. It's up to the account holder read the TOS. After all, they are agreeing to it when they sign up.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2017, 08:18:19 AM »
Pretty easily actually. IP 1 from Texas signs on and plays the game then signs off. A hour later IP 2 signs on from Virginia and plays. Flag is sent to HTC due to the time frame between logins associated with the IP address. IP 2 is still logged in and IP 3 attempts to login from California. Flag is again sent to HTC for multiple IPs trying to connect to the account at the same time. If this was being abused between 5-10 people, over time there will be enough information to conclude that the account was being shared.

This is just one simple way, of the many, that it could be done.

Keep in mind that HTC reserves the right to terminate any account at any time. It's up to the account holder read the TOS. After all, they are agreeing to it when they sign up.

Only one person signs on with the paying account all others are free two weekers that now as I understand it can play for free in a subscripters free arena.   Besides I played for years while traveling for my business, different cities each week.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2017, 08:39:38 AM »
So the two weekers can't play in a free arena after the two weeks?

Did not say that at all.

How hard is this to understand?

Anyone can play in any arena, under the "Free" tab, for as long as they want, with, or without a subscription.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2017, 10:01:16 AM »
Free stuff is cool for showing someone the game or for getting players who used to play back to it.

30 day free trial is almost a must these days....check Steam for subscription games, most (which there are very few now) have a 30 day trial period.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2017, 11:42:31 AM »
Only one person signs on with the paying account all others are free two weekers that now as I understand it can play for free in a subscripters free arena.   Besides I played for years while traveling for my business, different cities each week.

I answered your question regarding the enforcement of the TOS with a very easy to understand example and you still don't understand. Nothing about how the "Free" tab works is complex in any way to understand, as many have provided their input, including Skuzzy.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2017, 11:53:23 AM »

How hard is this to understand?


Very hard when there is no Aces High documentation that explains how the arenas will work.   Haven't seen anything on the HTC web page and the doucmentation is not even accurate for Aces High 2.  That's why it's hard to understand.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2017, 02:05:44 PM »
OK and a goup of gamming teens are worried about the TOS, how could it be enforced?  I know a few guys that play on an account and their  son plays on it also. It's against the TOS, right?

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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2017, 02:20:48 PM »
Did not say that at all.

How hard is this to understand?

Anyone can play in any arena, under the "Free" tab, for as long as they want, with, or without a subscription.

Where the confusion may be entering:

If I tell my neighbor's kid he can play in a free arena at AH3, how does he accomplish this?

Does he download the game then go online and create the two week account, then access the free tab. And the two week account he created, at the end of the two weeks stays permanent as his login account to get to the free tab? Or has this process been changed and there is now a third account type completely new people see for the first time to choose from? 
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2017, 03:24:08 PM »
Where the confusion may be entering:

If I tell my neighbor's kid he can play in a free arena at AH3, how does he accomplish this?

Does he download the game then go online and create the two week account, then access the free tab. And the two week account he created, at the end of the two weeks stays permanent as his login account to get to the free tab? Or has this process been changed and there is now a third account type completely new people see for the first time to choose from?

Yes he can continue to access the free tab. Im not sure, but I would think the 2 week trial doesn't start counting down until he logs into one of the pay arenas.... TA, WWI, Special, AvA, or the Main, but not sure of that.

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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2017, 05:19:43 PM »
Any account, paid subscriber or not, can now "go online" to the arena selection screen. You will just get an error message if you click on the Melee Arena when you are not a subscriber or a "2weeker".
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2017, 10:04:13 AM »
Very hard when there is no Aces High documentation that explains how the arenas will work.   Haven't seen anything on the HTC web page and the doucmentation is not even accurate for Aces High 2.  That's why it's hard to understand.

What do I have to document in order for the following statement to be understood?  We are talking in the context of this discussion.

I asked the question:

"How hard is this to understand?" (this being the statement I immediately made after the question)

Anyone can play in any arena, under the "Free" tab, for as long as they want, with, or without a subscription.


So, what about that is still not clear?
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2017, 11:08:58 AM »
What do I have to document in order for the following statement to be understood?  We are talking in the context of this discussion.

I asked the question:

"How hard is this to understand?" (this being the statement I immediately made after the question)

Anyone can play in any arena, under the "Free" tab, for as long as they want, with, or without a subscription.


So, what about that is still not clear?

that's today's offical version, thanks for that info, but that is not what many first understood, there was something about subscriber created arenas only being active as long as the creator was in the arena.  That was just another version of the many I've read here and elsewhere on the net.  Lacking any offical formal correct documentation from HTC it's not easy to know exactaly what is happening.
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Re: Revamped Free Trial
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2017, 11:53:19 AM »
that's today's offical version, thanks for that info, but that is not what many first understood, there was something about subscriber created arenas only being active as long as the creator was in the arena.  That was just another version of the many I've read here and elsewhere on the net.  Lacking any offical formal correct documentation from HTC it's not easy to know exactaly what is happening.

Go into the arena selection screen and press help.

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