so.... i got to thinking about the logo next to the oba file. i now click on it and it will try to open the terrain editor and the file. i did this with my newest terrain, the pro gram crashed and created the chconfig folder and settings folder. after closing the error report, i opened the terrain editor program, and my newest terrain opened fine. im not sure if this is part of my grtlkstl.oba problem or not, but i now think the terrain editor does not like to be opened from a oba file that is linked to the terrain editor program.