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Offline Greebo

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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2017, 01:52:59 AM »
I've tried to make those strips taper with the Normal Map without success.    :headscratch:

What I would do is remove about a third of the line from each end, use the rectangular selection tool to select an area equal to the original line, then do a 2-3 pixel gaussian blur.

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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2017, 06:49:27 AM »
What I would do is remove about a third of the line from each end, use the rectangular selection tool to select an area equal to the original line, then do a 2-3 pixel gaussian blur.

Will give that a shot.   :salute
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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2017, 06:51:54 AM »
Are you guys talking about the airflow fences on the outer portion of the wing?  if so, those are supposed to be raised, however the base is wider than the fence itself; you wouldn't want the whole thing raised as a bump on the skin.

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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2017, 06:59:28 AM »
Are you guys talking about the airflow fences on the outer portion of the wing?  if so, those are supposed to be raised, however the base is wider than the fence itself; you wouldn't want the whole thing raised as a bump on the skin.

Yes, bit it is shaped like an elongated teardrop instead of an elongated cylinder.    Getting the taper right is super tough.

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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2017, 07:06:38 AM »
Best shot I can find of one, closeup:


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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2017, 11:06:37 AM »
I've tried to make those strips taper with the Normal Map without success.    :headscratch:

I think I got it.  I started at the ends at 128/128/128 and every 2 pixels upped it by 20ish until the middle.  Looks pretty good in cockpit.  The fillets are 2 pixels wide that I use fwiw.
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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2017, 11:13:27 AM »
I have a bunch of pictures of different areas of P-51s that I took at the Mustang Roundup back in 2007 (wow 10 years ago).

If you need something specific ask me I might be able to help.




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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2017, 04:49:10 PM »
Opening a branch office in Germany.

Work In Progress.. Still lots to do.





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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2017, 05:00:44 PM »
Looking good so far. I'd make your greens a bit duller though, but you haven't done any weathering to the paint yet either.

another thing I noticed: the rivets on the fuselage extension should be perpendicular to the panel lines. The extension was essentially a simple box.
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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2017, 09:56:05 PM »
Opinions on the wear ?



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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2017, 10:36:07 PM »
Very fake looking to me. Find a picture of a real 190 that has a wear pattern that you like and try to mimic it.
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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2017, 11:07:15 PM »
Here's some good reference photos. Remember that it's important to blend inn the heavy wear with all the other wear and weathering as well. Pay attention to where the paint usually is chipped and what other weathering you can see in the same area.





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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2017, 01:44:48 PM »
Very fake looking to me. Find a picture of a real 190 that has a wear pattern that you like and try to mimic it.

Thanks!
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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2017, 09:16:44 PM »
Updated George Preddy's aircraft.





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Re: North American Aviation Shop
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2017, 05:49:53 PM »
Nice!

I just discovered via Bustr's post on in a different thread on the 51's painted wings - the aft-most section of the wing-fuselage fillet does not have screws in it.  I have to fix my template, and I think yours has the screws here too.  I realize now there is nothing to fasten to because in this section the flap tucks up underneath: