maybe the three country system needs an adjustment

[Vraciu]

The argument has never changed about eny. Even after a several year break it's still here. It probably will be until the day the game goes offline. But it really isn't that big of a deal unless you are not capable of fighting in anything less than a 5 eny bird. Now when eny is over 20 it is annoying for sure, but I've never logged over eny, over my subpar flying...yes.


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Being capable of fighting in something less able is NOT the issue(!!!!!).   Stop saying that.  It's a strawman.

That said,  why stick around if every time you login your plane is stuck in the hangar?  This would affect less-capable (new?) players the most. 

Anything that encourages logging off should be open to elimination.

[Shuffler]

Today a large squad could be as low as 10. That many can swing numbers emensely.

[JunkyII]

When the wait was an hour for switching sides, it didn't resolve the number unbalance.

True but did making it longer fix the problem or make it that a squad is getting praise for switching sides to help fix it?? That should be enough proof that the initial change had unintended consequences, so that's why I ask why not drop it to 3 and open up switching to the low number side. If anything ENY is more of an issue today then it was back then.

Semp,
If the problem doesn't effect you....why even have an argument in it??? If the switch time was dropped to 1 hour...would you be personally effected...by your previous comments no so you are just hopping on a  band wagon which makes you look ridiculous

Bustr,
I would say I do have more knowledge from gameplay then most...I know in the 10 years I've known you I can't count on my hand the amount of times I seen you in a GV or Bomber....so yea when it comes to overall gameplay I do think I know more then you because I've participated in more of it the last ten years...when it comes to gunnery/gunsights/map making ect ect ect you know more then me. That's what the point Violator was making...you big dummy.

[hitech]

True but did making it longer fix the problem or make it that a squad is getting praise for switching sides to help fix it??

Not sure what your saying, but you do realize that one of the goals of the system is to motivate people or squads  to change sides and call that new place home?


HiTech

[bustr]

Junky,

I've been in the game longer than you have known me. I think Syko is the only pig who has been with the pigs longer than me. You are still stuck on telling anyone who will listen that somehow you are better than them because of x,y and z which is supposed to then impart a superiority of "something" to anything you utter about this game. That is no different than High School cheer leaders telling all the girls in their school they are nothing if they didn't make the cheer leader squad. Ok we all bow down to Junky the head cheer leader of the Aces High High School cheer leader squad. Nope, the clouds didn't part and a heavenly chorus of "Amen Junky is the man" breaks wind while white doves place a laurel wreath on your head. 

The amazing thing about Hitech is reading all of his posts from 1999 to the present. You see his game design philosophy which has not changed because he never started out to be WT, DCS or IL2 and it's clones. And none of them can duplicate the core of his game, arenas that support 600 players. So none of them can do an FSO with massed bomber streams over Germany and all of the fighters at the same time. If they attempted to, they would have to give up their core selling point, eyecandy. So you can have numbers or you can have eyecandy, and we all see the ongoing issues with AH3 moving the bar for our game up a bit with the eyecandy.

Becoming those other games is the gist of what most of you experts on Aces High offer Hitech no matter how you camouflage it from yourselves with the most earnest of intentions. All of the complaints about the three country system covers wanting this game to become those games or one of several other 2 country games. It works for the small numbers their arenas support but, it doesn't work for the design philosophy of this game.

I don't see what you gents are afraid of by not wish listing Hitech with the truth.

Dear Hitech:

We as a consensus of expert Aces High players who know the game better than you do now, have decided your old game philosophy from 1999 is no longer working. We have given up constructively trying to guide you into the 21st century. So what we "know" will save your game is that you change your design to align with the current successful trends of your closest competitors. And some of us do actively play those games and know for what we pontificate. And that's a fact.......

Loves and kisses from the Aces High consensus of game experts. 

[Vraciu]

Not sure what your saying, but you do realize that one of the goals of the system is to motivate people or squads  to change sides and call that new place home?


HiTech

It's not doing much good from 6 AM to Noon. 

[guncrasher]

It's not doing much good from 6 AM to Noon.  .

you mean switching sides is disabled?


semp

[Tilt]

Gotta say I like the three country system. There is no real problem with map rolling or even hording. The key test is access to game play.

So the only time that a three country model has a problem is when two countries only want to fight each other and ignore the third.

At this point the land grab becomes even more useful beach use the third will then grab land and cannot be ignored further.

I guess a lot of the above is the nature of game play rather than the access to it. I can see thatcombat on the edge of an enemy horde is not the same as a series of 1v1's or similar frequent small number encounters.

Equally when the gaming model ( not the country system) rewards success achieved by perpetually avoiding combat then ......  Something is kind wrong somewhere..... But IMO this is ( whilst annoying) rare.

Actually I do believe there is a role for a 4th nation. A homeless nation of Pawns. Mercenaries if you will.

These guys would be moved instantly from country to country to make up numbers or balance game play a little better....they give up choice of side to be rewarded with perpetual access to combat.

[Arlo]

[JunkyII]

Not sure what your saying, but you do realize that one of the goals of the system is to motivate people or squads  to change sides and call that new place home?


HiTech

I'm terrible and conveying my thoughts to text, but what I was getting at is the reason I keep seeing people quote you was that changing the side switch time stabilizes ENY but a squad getting praised for fixing ENY is proof that it did not meet that objective because the problem still existed.

And as far as moving countries and staying there, I feel like an incentive for a squad for moving country would help more...maybe a ranking system of map wins for a squad or something to that nature would get squads to jump for long terms or tours to other countries..I don't think the side switch time is in the mind of any of the rotation squads thoughts when they rotate.

[caldera]

Not sure what your saying, but you do realize that one of the goals of the system is to motivate people or squads  to change sides and call that new place home?


HiTech

Now I see why you have the switch time so long, it's not to balance numbers in the short term.  Still, with the numbers wildly fluctuating throughout the day, there is no way (for us) to confirm the long term numbers are balanced.

[hitech]

but a squad getting praised for fixing ENY

I'm confused why was a squad praised?

HiTech

[oboe]

I'm confused why was a squad praised?

HiTech

May be a reference to the Pigs On The Wing switching to Rook?

[ACE]

I'm confused why was a squad praised?

HiTech

The pigs on the wing was arguably the largest squad on the knights. They have been knights for as long as I can remember. Recently before they switched the knights had huge ENY problems which was fair they clearly out numbered everyone. Pigs switched to a different country and from what I have seen the numbers during American prime time are way more even.

[Vraciu]

May be a reference to the Pigs On The Wing switching to Rook?

That's what he meant as I read it.