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Offline shotgunneeley

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Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« on: March 14, 2017, 01:05:17 PM »
After a weekend and long night of study, today I blitzed the Remote Pilot Knowledge exam to be rated to operate a Small Unmanned Aerial System (sUAS). I'm stoked to finally be able to apply one for our private forestry consulting / rural landsale business - had to shelve my DJI phantom 2 Vision Plus when the initial ruling required commercial quadcopter use to be solely reserved for licensed pilots. During the late summer of 2016, strict FAA legislation was loosened to allow prospective commercial quadcopter operaters to take a 60-question knowledge exam without any actual in-flight training for certification. With that, I am now licensed and dangerous to fly quadcopters for commercial use. Now on to putting some serious thought as to what sUAS make/model and payload will best meet our business needs. While my 2 year old P2V+ Quickly became obsolete during the legal limbo, I'm debating on repairing the camera to deploy it for hobby use (stuck it in a tree and damaged the camera getting it out with a shotgun blast). Will have to become accustomed to a new model for business use, but I'll be glad to get out of the office and back into the field with a new twist.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/fly_for_work_business/becoming_a_pilot/
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2017, 02:11:27 PM »
I blitzed the Remote Pilot Knowledge exam to be rated to operate a Small Unmanned Aerial System (sUAS)

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(stuck it in a tree and damaged the camera getting it out with a shotgun blast)

I have to know what was in this 'exam'?

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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2017, 06:30:13 PM »
I have to know what was in this 'exam'?

#2 heavy shot...

Any problem can be solved with improvisation, adaptation, and the correct amount of 12 gauge duck loads. Unfortunately, a stray pellet lodged itself into the back of the camera gimble and broke the circuit board. Now the cost of fixing this part would be well more than the market value for this entire quadcopter model.

Anybody here operate these things for a business?

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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 11:56:22 AM »
I'm hoping eventually the FAA will come up with some common-sense rules on when it is appropriate to bring a UAS down to earth with a shotgun blast.  Questions that need standardization (and modification from current rules) include things like:

When is it ok to shoot down a UAV over your own property?  Currently if its your own UAV, maybe.  If it isn't, no.
When is it ok to shoot down a UAV that is not on your own property?  Same thing, what if it is your UAV and what if it isn't?
When is it ok for a landowner to destroy/disable a UAV over their own property that may be committing a crime (filming a minor thru their window when they may be changing clothes, for example)?

I figure any UAV within 300 ft AGL over my property ought to be fair game, however I am also quite sure that I have no idea what may or may not have happened to any UAV that may or may not have been over my property officer and no you may not search my property or enter my house without a warrant looking for some creeper's peeping tom UAV.  I just don't know what you're talking about, no UAVs here officer.   :mad:

There are already 2 types of counter-UAV systems that may or may not be legal.  Directed energy (likely 2.4ghz and/or GPS jammer) may be illegal, however "inadvertent" mid-air collision with a property owner's own UAV, or the net being carried by said owner's UAV, would more than likely lead to a liability finding against whoever is operating an intruder UAV over a populated area (my house).  I have 3 little kids who would likely be badly injured by a falling UAV so reckless endangerment of a child might even apply, should a UAV fall (for whatever reason) on my property.

We BADLY need regulations and updated laws in place to encourage lawful private and commercial use of small UAVs, while protecting landowner privacy and strongly discouraging perverts and paparazzi intrusion.  The creepers out there are making it harder for legit businesses to use these things.

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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 12:45:08 PM »
I'm pretty sure there are laws about firing a weapon near any residence.  Killing your neighbor from a stray shot seems to me to be slightly worse than a guy filming crap on your property.

It's never been legal to protect property with lethal force.
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2017, 03:04:59 PM »
Someone needs to mod one of these with micro-rockets:



And with modern webcam security software it wouldn't be hard to automate targeting and firing   :x

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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2017, 04:09:07 PM »
There is a company that makes a hammer that allows you to take command of a uav. It immediately stops video and then you can land it or make it return home. Returning home allows you to locate the owner.

It is not legal for individuals in the US yet.

Here is a link to a youtube of the device...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbW3ZeoMJio
« Last Edit: March 15, 2017, 04:21:40 PM by Shuffler »
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2017, 11:35:44 PM »
I'm pretty sure there are laws about firing a weapon near any residence.  Killing your neighbor from a stray shot seems to me to be slightly worse than a guy filming crap on your property.

It's never been legal to protect property with lethal force.

Lots of people are legally allowed to shoot any kind of weapon on their property.  I have a dozen friends in Texas with multi-acre lots that routinely hunt and shoot in their "back yard".  Or front yard.
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2017, 09:08:35 AM »
Lots of people are legally allowed to shoot any kind of weapon on their property.  I have a dozen friends in Texas with multi-acre lots that routinely hunt and shoot in their "back yard".  Or front yard.

Yes but in a classic neighborhood it is against our laws. Classic being small 1/2 Or 1 acre lots.
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2017, 09:14:11 AM »
Guys y'all are rocking off of the rails a bit from what I had originally intended. I don't mind talking about the possible contingencies to counter quadcopter abuse by knuckleheads, but they are likewise capable of many beneficial aspects as well.

I spoke to a forest tech representative yesterday, I think the Phantom 4 Pro is the way to go for me. It primarily handles "inspections" with a digital camera capable of taking pictures/videos of real estate property for advertisement. I could upload a flight path built from the computer to scan up to 100 acres per flight of to stitch map quality images of the surface together. It can also carry a near-infrared camera for collecting timber data to build a an overall health report of the vegetation below - all truly exciting possibilities to help our business.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2017, 12:04:47 PM by shotgunneeley »
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2017, 11:45:17 AM »
The 4 is an outstanding drone. I've used it to inspect possible roof damage from a hail storm we had. Ended up checking several neibors homes too. All free as I am not commercially licensed.

There are professional drones out there too.
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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2017, 07:51:05 PM »
I know a guy who briefly worked for a company using small UAVs for volumetric estimates of pretty much any pile of anything.  Useful for farmers, people who own rock piles, etc.  Same sort of idea, fly a precise pathway taking images, stitching them together and measuring, then add math -=> profit!

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Re: Remote sUAS Pilot Certification
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2017, 09:32:04 AM »
I'm an inspector in the petrochemical field.  This means I make confined spaced entries into pressure vessels, storage tanks, and have to access piping high in pipe racks.  Drones, while not yet able to collect quantitative data, have made collecting qualitative data much easier and safer.

That being said, I hope my career isn't replaced by drones.
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