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Offline Skuzzy

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2017, 02:28:07 PM »
Correct.  Keep in mind that is just one value.  Hold time is also a consideration.  All the values matter in the overall scheme.  I'll have to do timeline graph showing when each cycle starts and ends so you can get a better idea of the overall time it takes to read/write one bus width of data.
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2017, 03:44:46 PM »
Correct.  Keep in mind that is just one value.  Hold time is also a consideration.  All the values matter in the overall scheme.  I'll have to do timeline graph showing when each cycle starts and ends so you can get a better idea of the overall time it takes to read/write one bus width of data.

Ok.

Yeah I was assuming that the clock tick time was parallel on the falling side as well as the rising side. Didn't even factor in the hold time or transition from rising to falling and vise-versa.

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2017, 08:37:53 PM »
Just found a 16Gb 4x4Gb kit of Corsair Vengence LPX DDR4 3000 CL 15 w\ red heat spreaders that is faster than my current 2133 set at a sale price of $129.95 (cheapest price on Newegg....all other brands are more expensive & these are the fastest quad channel 16Gb set out there until you get past 3400 as long as the CL stays at 16 but the price on those is "WHEW!!!!"

I'm probably gonna spring for these......should squeeze a little more performance out of my little box....and give me a little color contrast as well on the ole Gigabyte X99M Gaming 5 mobo............

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2017, 07:22:49 PM »
Anyone doing anything else while playing? If not then 8gb is enough.

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2017, 11:36:31 PM »
Now I'm wondering if getting 32gigs was to much? After running a 6gig machine for years I felt like more was better.  :D
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2017, 01:35:16 AM »
I've got 16 Gb DDR4 3200 and rarely exceed 20% usage.  8 Gb should be fine unless you have a lot of apps running at the same time or are into heavy video editing.
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2017, 10:23:58 AM »
Now I'm wondering if getting 32gigs was to much? After running a 6gig machine for years I felt like more was better.  :D

I was running 4gig which had to cut to 2gig when I was getting all kinds of BSODs. 

I've just gone with 2x4gbs for my rebuild.  With the intention of adding 2x8gb sticks when the price falls. 
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2017, 12:27:52 PM »
I was running 4gig which had to cut to 2gig when I was getting all kinds of BSODs. 

I've just gone with 2x4gbs for my rebuild.  With the intention of adding 2x8gb sticks when the price falls.

My old system was 4x2gig cards but I kept having a massive amount of BSODS, had to cut it down to 3x2gig which sucked for years. When I built this new machine I just decided to cram it to motherboard max of 4x8gig cards. So far I really don't notice and slow down but I'm sure there could be issues. For now I'm happy having 32 as I feel like I can plow through anything.
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2017, 03:09:36 PM »
If four memory modules tend to be somewhat unstable it often works to reduce max speed by one grade. After ensuring the command rate is not set to 1T of course (seldomly works with four modules).
In todays gaming machines you want to go for 2x8GiB modules.

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2017, 04:55:10 PM »
If four memory modules tend to be somewhat unstable it often works to reduce max speed by one grade. After ensuring the command rate is not set to 1T of course (seldomly works with four modules).
In todays gaming machines you want to go for 2x8GiB modules.

I've yet to run into any issues running (4) 8 GB DIMMs at 1T regardless if it is an Intel build or an AMD build...I can see where it is could be an issue though...if people are monkeying around with the timings/settings, pushing for too much, trying to overclock

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2017, 07:12:32 PM »
I just run 4gb and I am content
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2017, 07:45:16 PM »
I've yet to run into any issues running (4) 8 GB DIMMs at 1T regardless if it is an Intel build or an AMD build...I can see where it is could be an issue though...if people are monkeying around with the timings/settings, pushing for too much, trying to overclock

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Some motherboards are prone to issues using 4 DIMMs.  Always a good idea to check the compatibility list at the manufacturer's web-site.
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2017, 07:49:14 PM »
Some motherboards are prone to issues using 4 DIMMs.  Always a good idea to check the compatibility list at the manufacturer's web-site.

You know me, BE, I always do thorough research before the ordering and build, brother!

Edit: back when I was heavily donating parts, controllers, full builds, I did come across a Gigabyte MB that had issues with the 4th DIMM...

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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2017, 08:08:19 PM »
I'm having some kind of issue with video spikes both in the game and watching streaming video and its giving me fits. With Comcast I believe its Flash related cause I have few when I unchecked Hardware acceleration in Flash controls it doesnt happen as much but the playback quality is lower. In Aces High it can only be my connection or my video card and I dont see why it should be my card.

I have an i7 950 at 3.07 so the processor is a little old and seems to stress when gaming at 4K. I have 12 gig RAM and considering upgrading that. I tried that Project Lasso software with mixed results, it prioritzes processes running in background. Actually I think Im having fewer spikes in game with it but still enough to bother me. Things is a few months ago I was running everything flawlessly.

I'm stumped with this. It can really be anything.


         
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Re: Speaking of RAM....
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2017, 06:53:16 AM »
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