It's coming this August...

[Nefarious]

Official announcement coming soon... Until then:

[Krusty]

I would STRONGLY re-iterate all the past posts I've made with stats, facts, numbers, and history behind them and request once again that the Ju-88 has no place being in the BoB scenario. Especially not when we have the proper He-111 to use instead of the 1942-era Ju-88 that was the primary model used in the invasion of Russia.

[Bruv119]

I would STRONGLY re-iterate all the past posts I've made with stats, facts, numbers, and history behind them and request once again that the Ju-88 has no place being in the BoB scenario. Especially not when we have the proper He-111 to use instead of the 1942-era Ju-88 that was the primary model used in the invasion of Russia.

+1  and lets also remove the 110's or limit them to the first 3 hours segment along with the stukas.  whilst we are at it.   

I don't want to be engaging BnZ 110s in the middle of a 109 vs Hurri spit furball over London. 

[puller]

+1  and lets also remove the 110's or limit them to the first 3 hours segment along with the stukas.  whilst we are at it.   

I don't want to be engaging BnZ 110s in the middle of a 109 vs Hurri spit furball over London. 

My 109s arent gonna let u live long enough to worry about all that   

[JimmyD3]

My 109s arent gonna let u live long enough to worry about all that   

 

[ROC]

Ahhh this is going to be a great one!  Axis team already coming together.  This is going to be built like the original one, tight and non stop.

[JunkyII]

Dibs Spit

[Bruv119]

Dibs Spit

fight you for them!   

[Owlblink]

Packing my bags for vacation in New Ger... errr Britain.

Yes, I always come with a 109 and a few schwarms 

 

[Krusty]

+1  and lets also remove the 110's or limit them to the first 3 hours segment along with the stukas.  whilst we are at it.   

I don't want to be engaging BnZ 110s in the middle of a 109 vs Hurri spit furball over London.

Stukas I'd agree. They have a token role regardless. 110s actually have a legitimate reason to be there in small numbers. Their BnZ nature is really just because they can't turn with the enemy. That and he heavy weapons loadout allows them to take spray shots as they blow past, but overall they were historically a part of it. More so than most BOB scenarios we have. We just often have different rules of engagement and aren't hampered by ignorance dictating how they should fight.

[BFOOT1]

Oh crap, 109 E's, or to fly for 601 or 609 Squadron 

Someone help me, and yes sheep can be used as an incentive 

[Bruv119]

Oh crap, 109 E's, or to fly for 601 or 609 Squadron 

Someone help me, and yes sheep can be used as an incentive 

everyone knows all the best sheep live in Wales and to get them you will need to be this side of the channel because any invasion attempt will be swiftly dealt with by a supermarine or the Hawker.   

[Bruv119]

Stukas I'd agree. They have a token role regardless. 110s actually have a legitimate reason to be there in small numbers. Their BnZ nature is really just because they can't turn with the enemy. That and he heavy weapons loadout allows them to take spray shots as they blow past, but overall they were historically a part of it. More so than most BOB scenarios we have. We just often have different rules of engagement and aren't hampered by ignorance dictating how they should fight.

Whilst they were there they were quickly withdrawn from the battle having been shot down and the Luftwaffe not having enough of them.   I think by the 3rd and 4th segments they should be gone.     

As we are going for immersion having something performing well above it's station detracts from the historical facts. 

If they are included maybe a look at lowering their overall lives or having minimal seats available.   

[Krusty]

The 110 doesn't compare to the Ju88.

It doesn't perform above the most common versions. The hp boost was minor and nearly insignficant. The Ju-88 we have carried thousands of pounds more bombs and had longer wings, 50% more defensive guns, and is over 20mph faster than the majority of bombers during the BoB. It turns what should be a "defend the bombers" setup to "the bombers will always get through, drop their load, and you will never catch them after the initial merge" -- not even slightly similar to a small limited number of 110s being used for BnZ.

EDIT: I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of restrictions on the 110C use such as dictating that it must be used for bomber escort or something like that, but then the same thing should be applied to the spitfires and hurricanes. They shouldn't take off until they had definitive contact and had to climb up to engage targets. As it stands the 100 octane update has made them mini-monsters when used unhistorically... you know... kind of like how the use of the 110c makes it more effective than how it was in the real BOB?

[KCDitto]