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Offline Vraciu

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Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« on: March 27, 2017, 07:12:58 PM »
Just as courtesy to others I thought I would let you know that, pending Skuzzy's approval, I am adopting the following:

18    2012-05-17 12:41:55    P51D8011008    55FG/343FS by Mus51

I want to see if I can do something to customize the spec maps without changing the artwork.   It is a nice one that I think is well worth keeping current.   I will report back on this run through the adoption process with anything I come across that may be of help to others.

If anyone else wants it I'll defer.

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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 04:59:32 PM »
I'm curious how the adoption process works.  I know Skuzzy has been working on the process but I haven't seen a posting describing how its going to work.

Will HTC provide you with the skinner's original art files?   And starting with those materials, you will update the skin, resubmit it, and then it becomes your skin - with the skin being credited to you in the game?



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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 05:01:40 PM »
I'm curious how the adoption process works.  I know Skuzzy has been working on the process but I haven't seen a posting describing how its going to work.

Will HTC provide you with the skinner's original art files?   And starting with those materials, you will update the skin, resubmit it, and then it becomes your skin - with the skin being credited to you in the game?

Probably only get the single-layer submitted bitmaps.  That's okay though. 
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 05:04:03 PM »
I'm curious how the adoption process works.  I know Skuzzy has been working on the process but I haven't seen a posting describing how its going to work.

Will HTC provide you with the skinner's original art files?   And starting with those materials, you will update the skin, resubmit it, and then it becomes your skin - with the skin being credited to you in the game?

It might be that way for the sake of simplicity.

I know that the first skin that I adopt will be redone from the ground up - so it had better have my name on it. 
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 05:14:46 PM »
In my case I don't want credit.  I'm just tweaking the specular files and maybe doing anti-alias on some panel lines.  More like a restoration than a rebuild. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 05:18:30 PM »
That makes sense in your case.
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 05:23:03 PM »
I adopted a 109D9 and I got the basic bitmap just like if it was one of my skins.  I am redoing the skin entirely from scratch though.

Vraciu, please don't use the base fi,e for your adopted 51D.  Redo it completely.
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 05:27:40 PM »
I adopted a 109D9 and I got the basic bitmap just like if it was one of my skins.  I am redoing the skin entirely from scratch though.

Vraciu, please don't use the base fi,e for your adopted 51D.  Redo it completely.

I couldn't improve on what's there.   Not in a million years. The only work it needs is modifying the shine on dull areas and maybe some panel line smoothing. 

I guess I will know more when I see the files.  Will let you know. 
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2017, 05:36:40 PM »
It just seems kinda dicey (risky) to me for HTC to be sharing artists work with others, for the purpose of them building off of it and possibly taking credit for it.   



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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2017, 05:46:00 PM »
The only skins anyone can adopt are skins where the player is no longer a player and has not been a player for over a year.  The option is to allow another skinner to take over and update it to meet the new specifications are to remove it entirely.

I do not like the idea of removing skins.  If a skinner wants to adopt it and bring it up to spec, then that skinner is going to get credit for the work. they put into it. 

Yes, the skinner who adopts the skin gets the same files they see now.

We will restrict skinners to only one adopted skin at a time.  That is to say, until the adopted skin is complete, the skinner may not adopt another skin.
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2017, 06:01:04 PM »
It just seems kinda dicey (risky) to me for HTC to be sharing artists work with others, for the purpose of them building off of it and possibly taking credit for it.

I'm sure they've protected themselves.  Once a skin is submitted and accepted it becomes the property of HTC.   

The only option beyond adoption is elimination.  Some of these are worth saving. 
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2017, 06:42:28 PM »
I'm sure they've protected themselves.  Once a skin is submitted and accepted it becomes the property of HTC.   

The only option beyond adoption is elimination.  Some of these are worth saving.

None of Mus51's skins are worth saving IMHO.
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2017, 08:29:30 PM »
None of Mus51's skins are worth saving IMHO.

I wouldn't go that far.

I like this one a lot...

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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2017, 09:25:35 PM »
Mus 51 a.k.a Dutchguy had some of the best skins before bump/spec map update. He was able to bake-in an insane amount of detail.
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Re: Skin Adoption Request/Notice P-51D 55FG/343FS
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2017, 09:34:12 PM »
Mus 51 a.k.a Dutchguy had some of the best skins before bump/spec map update. He was able to bake-in an insane amount of detail.

I always liked his stuff.  I flew his and Fencer's a lot before I started making my own. 

Wth some spec adjustments I think these can be preserved.   They still have relevance in my view.
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