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Offline Devil 505

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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2017, 11:55:27 PM »
Ummmm....
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It's a rather poor profile based on this very old and incorrect one.


This is the definitive work on Hahn's aircraft by Jerry Crandall:


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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2017, 12:00:29 AM »
Artist rendition in what looks like MS Paint. I would not put a ton of stock in paintings as people notoriously get things wrong or continue misinformation.

Yellow nose was a AAA IFF marking common on the Eastern Front. Not too many guys were flashy like Graf.

The yellow was universally applied to all Luftwaffe fighters through most of 1941. It was later just applied to the lower cowling. You are thinking of the use of yellow tail bands and lower wing tips being Eastern Front specific markings.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2017, 12:07:53 AM »
Yes you are correct, I've been away from my pile of 109 books. A month ago I picked up Volume I, Geschicte des Jagdgeschwaders 77. Thought it might help practice my German along with pretty early war pictures.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2017, 12:13:18 AM »
Cool!
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2017, 12:54:31 AM »
What did he say?

I can't imagine that Hahn would have ever crossed paths with Graf during the war.

They were in the gulag together.   Graf got special torture due to his fame as a member of the German national team for soccer.   When he broke his fellow captors turned on him.  Hahn ripped him a new one in I TELL THE TRUTH. 
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2017, 11:59:21 AM »
You guys really should have checked your calendars.  :devil

April Fools!

Here's the real skin with a yellow cowling and rudder:







I was telling a squaddie yesterday about the skins I had just finished and reflecting on Vraciu's P-51 when the idea to make a prank version hit me.

LOL...

I was curious where this was going! Great looking skin!
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2017, 01:21:30 PM »
Looks good but now I want Graf's red nose 109.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2017, 01:42:04 PM »
Looks good but now I want Graf's red nose 109.

They're both already in game. The G-6 is Jg 50 by Fencer and the K-4 is Jg 52 by NRraven
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2017, 01:55:05 PM »
They're both already in game. The G-6 is Jg 50 by Fencer and the K-4 is Jg 52 by NRraven

Didn't he have others?   A G-5 or something?

I recall a G-2 but it wasn't red I'm guessing.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2017, 02:04:14 PM »
Not with a red tuliped nose. That began when he formed Jg 50 in November, 1943. Before that his aircraft followed the conventions of the rest of Jg 52.

He also had red tulips on his 190's while commanding Jgr. Ost.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2017, 05:01:39 PM »
Not with a red tuliped nose. That began when he formed Jg 50 in November, 1943. Before that his aircraft followed the conventions of the rest of Jg 52.

He also had red tulips on his 190's while commanding Jgr. Ost.

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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2017, 08:29:19 PM »
Devil if you want I will ask Skuzzy to transfer that 109G to you.  It would save me having to redo it with it's 100 plus friends.

Quite the gesture.  I have maybe....nine or ten skins total.    I dunno how you manage 100+.
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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2017, 11:58:31 AM »
Ok, figured it out.  Timing it seems is everything in paint schemes.  The recent back and forth with Horses Itch was primarily a date issue. Early P-51B/C's were white nosed and when the D's arrived they were yellow/red checkered.  Han's 109F-4 was yellow and then later it was red in the G2.

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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 12:34:19 PM »
Ok, figured it out.  Timing it seems is everything in paint schemes.  The recent back and forth with Horses Itch was primarily a date issue. Early P-51B/C's were white nosed and when the D's arrived they were yellow/red checkered.  Han's 109F-4 was yellow and then later it was red in the G2.

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Incorrect. That's another rendition from an artist on F-2s as you can see in the photo caption itself. G-2s weren't around for BoB era France. He became gruppenkommodore in JG 54 on the Eastern Front where he flew the G-2. And it was painted.... just like the rest of the gruppe.



And the artwork


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Re: Bf 109F-4 Hans 'Assi" Hans Jg 2
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2017, 12:42:22 PM »
So when did his F-4 have a red nose? I've seen several pictures of Han's 109 with a red top/yellow bottom for the engine cowling...  :headscratch:

The in-game yellow looks beautiful BTW. :aok

And when did he start flying the Fw-190A series?
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