Battle of Britiain movie remake: Director Riddley Scott

[Vraciu]

Some mistakes here and there but of interest any way for those wondering about the airplane's used in the film...

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/bob/aircraft.htm

[Oldman731]

The original is great for it's time, but by the standards of modern film (as in the last 40 years or so) it does show its flaws.

Heh.  Like using real planes instead of CGIs?

- oldman

[PR3D4TOR]

Lets not make another Red Tails... What I wish they'd do is make a remastered version of the Battle of Britain, but they won't coz there's no money in it. Cleaning up the film and colors, cleaning up the sound and effects. Redoing the obviously hand drawn fire and explosion effects and syncing the strafing scenes they botched and couldn't afford to re-shoot.

[Devil 505]

Heh.  Like using real planes instead of CGIs?

- oldman

I mean like characterization, acting, pacing, and camerawork on the ground. While the aerial cinematography was superb and revolutionary, the rest of the film is very much of the old breed of film making.

[Gman]

I posted this a couple years ago, the Wilson "Connie" Edwards story, he collected a bunch of the 109/Spanglish planes and was involved in flying in the original BoB film.  This is great news, Scott is great, and this is probably my most anticipated upcoming film now.  Yay!



http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/wilson-connie-edwards.html

Great pics in the article, great video as well, only 8ish minutes, but worth it.  Connie was a little koo koo for Coco Puffs with some of his statements, discussed this in the past thread a couple years back, I'll try and find it - he claimed the 109s could climb at 6k fpm and some other questionable stuff.  Perhaps the stripped and hot rodded movie/prop 109s could so some of the things he said, but I doubt the L/W ones did. 

edit - Old thread, if anyone cares.    http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,371385.msg4951321.html#msg4951321

[PR3D4TOR]

Connie was a little koo koo for Coco Puffs with some of his statements, discussed this in the past thread a couple years back, I'll try and find it - he claimed the 109s could climb at 6k fpm and some other questionable stuff. 

Not at all questionable. A standard 109G has 1450hp and climbs 4,500 ft/m. The 109Gs he flew were the 420 mph post-war Spanish Buchon variant with a 1,600 hp Merlin. With guns and armor removed it would be a rocket ship.

A standard loaded Buchon in service condition had a climb rate of 5,577 ft/min.

Perhaps show a little more respect for people with vastly more experience and knowledge than you...

[Guppy35]

I mean like characterization, acting, pacing, and camerawork on the ground. While the aerial cinematography was superb and revolutionary, the rest of the film is very much of the old breed of film making.

I don't care what anyone thinks about the film.  The most important thing it did was save and get a lot of warbirds going again, jump starting the interest in them and of course the money followed.  Look at all the Spits, Hurricanes and 109s now flying.  We'd never have gotten this far without that film getting the ball rolling.

That and it's still a classic

[BBQsam]

100+ warbirds used in the BoB movie!

Someone needs to take V to the toolshed and throttle him with a blackponyskin! 

[Vraciu]

100+ warbirds used in the BoB movie!

Someone needs to take V to the toolshed and throttle him with a blackponyskin!

  

[Vraciu]

I posted this a couple years ago, the Wilson "Connie" Edwards story, he collected a bunch of the 109/Spanglish planes and was involved in flying in the original BoB film.  This is great news, Scott is great, and this is probably my most anticipated upcoming film now.  Yay!

https:/ /vimeo.com/99991680

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/wilson-connie-edwards.html

Great pics in the article, great video as well, only 8ish minutes, but worth it.  Connie was a little koo koo for Coco Puffs with some of his statements, discussed this in the past thread a couple years back, I'll try and find it - he claimed the 109s could climb at 6k fpm and some other questionable stuff.  Perhaps the stripped and hot rodded movie/prop 109s could so some of the things he said, but I doubt the L/W ones did. 

edit - Old thread, if anyone cares.    http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,371385.msg4951321.html#msg4951321

I know Connie Edwards.   Also knew Lefty Gardner, Lloyd Nolan, etc..   These are/were some pretty amazing guys and some of the best stick and rudder men who ever lived.   If they say it can be done believe them--because they've done it.

[Vraciu]

Perhaps show a little more respect for people with vastly more experience and knowledge than you...

Irony.   My favorite thing. 

[Gman]

Regarding the film, some decent names are being attached already, Matt Charman who wrote/EP'd "Bridge of SPies" for Spielberg is working on the script and will EP, as well as Matthew Orton, who wrote "Operation Finale", another WW2 subject matter film.  It's still in early development stages, and won't be shooting for a couple years at least.  I wonder how many real aircraft they'll use with the CGI...

Regarding PRedator, he seems to have changed his mind since Connie last came up (link from last post).   http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,371385.msg4951321.html#msg4951321

Fighter pilots (and pilots in general) have a lot in common with fishermen when it comes to telling stories...- Predator

I don't see how saying someone who has been known to exaggerate (from others in the Warbirds community), has said something a little out there regarding wartime 109s outclimbing Spits/51s by nearly double, and out turning/fighting them easily as well, is in any way "disrespectful".  Some guys just need to construct arguments/fights I guess...

[PR3D4TOR]

Regarding PRedator, he seems to have changed his mind since Connie last came up...

Not at all. Pilots are like fishermen, but in this case Connie's claim is not unreasonable considering the known performance of the Buchon. It is very believable that a light Buchon can climb at 6,000+ ft/min.

I don't see how saying someone who has been known to exaggerate (from others in the Warbirds community), has said something a little out there regarding wartime 109s...

He didn't say anything about "wartime 109s". That just you being totally disingenuous. He flew the Spit9 and the Buchon during the production of the Battle of Britain. To my knowledge he never flew "a wartime 109". And he is not alone in his admiration for the Buchon.


https://youtu.be/TFl8X4y9-94

[Vraciu]

Regarding the film, some decent names are being attached already, Matt Charman who wrote/EP'd "Bridge of SPies" for Spielberg is working on the script and will EP, as well as Matthew Orton, who wrote "Operation Finale", another WW2 subject matter film.  It's still in early development stages, and won't be shooting for a couple years at least.  I wonder how many real aircraft they'll use with the CGI...

Regarding PRedator, he seems to have changed his mind since Connie last came up (link from last post).   http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,371385.msg4951321.html#msg4951321
I don't see how saying someone who has been known to exaggerate (from others in the Warbirds community), has said something a little out there regarding wartime 109s outclimbing Spits/51s by nearly double, and out turning/fighting them easily as well, is in any way "disrespectful".  Some guys just need to construct arguments/fights I guess...

I'd love to know who these "others" are?

There's a lot of butthurt out there directed (unfairly) at Edwards.   The guy had more hours inverted in these planes than these guys ever will in total--and that was before many of them were born. 

[Nefarious]

Sure, I love real airplanes. But honestly, I don't care how much CGI is used so as long as it's believable and done really well.