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Offline 715

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More depression on 17 lbers
« on: April 09, 2017, 11:55:07 AM »
I wish for increased depression angle on the 17 lber anti-tank guns.

For example, the one next to the spawn hanger of the hilly vehicle base literally has no shot on anything at all.  It is on a rise and all nearby spots for enemy tanks to show up are below the travel of the gun. You can drive right up to it with impunity. This is true to a lesser extent to many other 17 lbers (if you pick the proper approach path).

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2017, 01:23:12 PM »
And give the gunner the ability to actually look around. If necessary, by adding a 'commander' crew position.
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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2017, 01:24:12 PM »
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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2017, 01:30:07 PM »
+1

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2017, 01:39:24 PM »
And give the gunner the ability to actually look around. If necessary, by adding a 'commander' crew position.

....but make it so you can only shoot from the gunners spot. I think ALL guns GVs included should be set this way. Shooting for anything other than the gunners view (F3, commanders view and so on) should be disabled just like it is in fighters.

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2017, 02:51:56 PM »
Ie, 95% less main-gunning at planes  :D
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....but make it so you can only shoot from the gunners spot. I think ALL guns GVs included should be set this way. Shooting for anything other than the gunners view (F3, commanders view and so on) should be disabled just like it is in fighters.
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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 08:32:47 AM »
Yes.  Yes.

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 04:38:53 PM »
Also an ability to look around like a commanders position.....I know it has been asked for time and again
It's quite a thing traversing when you can hear the gv is close behind or to the side of you....am I gonna make.. :rofl

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2017, 12:05:40 PM »
+1 on all accounts.
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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2017, 01:46:31 PM »
Is it not meeting this specification for the Ordnance QF 17-pounder?

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2017, 06:54:45 PM »
Is it not meeting this specification for the Ordnance QF 17-pounder?

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No.  Offline in external view I measured 0.94 degree of depression (i.e. about 0.9 to 1.0 degree given the error possibilities of the measurement).

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2017, 08:31:33 PM »
+1 to all positive requests
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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2017, 09:05:40 PM »
No.  Offline in external view I measured 0.94 degree of depression (i.e. about 0.9 to 1.0 degree given the error possibilities of the measurement).

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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2017, 04:54:50 PM »


In the video there is a sequence where the gun has the ability to partially pivot somewhat independent to the locked wheel base.
Clearly rotation speed in AHIII is now in question.  :devil


There is also some slew left to right via a hand crank just for the gun, independent to the above mentioned ability to partially rotate the gun base. All of this without the wheels ever moving  :aok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosCsRbAADg




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Re: More depression on 17 lbers
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2017, 05:39:40 PM »
You are an even baddddeeerrrr man...... :O
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