The Firefly

[Devil 505]

Fly a plane! 

[FBKampfer]

Fireflies gun will out perform the Tiger's and Panthers, you just can't aim apparently.

And it's speed is correct, as modeled off of M4A4 conversions.

[Gman]

Try and kill a Firefly, and it'll blow a new hole in your little moon.

[lunatic1]

you have 2,500 kills in it? I guess i must suck then case closed.

actually I'm working on my T34-85 kills right now

but gv achievements will take longer because I fly a lot more now than I used to

[lunatic1]

Fireflies gun will out perform the Tiger's and Panthers, you just can't aim apparently.

And it's speed is correct, as modeled off of M4A4 conversions.

20mph rgr

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

The Vc Firefly was capable of 25 mph for short periods and 20 was the normal max speed.

Check out this spec sheet.

[lunatic1]

no wonder The Firefly couldn't go very fast, it has a Chrysler engine it.

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

It really was a crazy motor, but it was reliable, pretty much as reliable as the other Sherman engine options.





Whats even more interesting is there are two or three of these still running in Sherman's over in Europe.

[waystin2]

wow the gun on the Firefly is a 17pdr. it hits hard and kills what it hits. I had no problem with it save for the lack of armor and its slow speed.. the amour historically correct M4/firefly has always been weak--the M4 speed is what 24-25 mph--shouldn't the firefly be the same, unless it's 17pdr that slows it down(will have to read up on it) but I had no problem getting my achievement in it-uhh maybe your just a bad shot-sorry--the T-34's have sloped armor. The Panthers and tigerII's have heavier armor but can be destroyed by side and rear hits

QFT.  It has a great long range gun and up close it's an absolute destroyer.

[JunkyII]

wow the gun on the Firefly is a 17pdr. it hits hard and kills what it hits. I had no problem with it save for the lack of armor and its slow speed.. the amour historically correct M4/firefly has always been weak--the M4 speed is what 24-25 mph--shouldn't the firefly be the same, unless it's 17pdr that slows it down(will have to read up on it) but I had no problem getting my achievement in it-uhh maybe your just a bad shot-sorry--the T-34's have sloped armor. The Panthers and tigerII's have heavier armor but can be destroyed by side and rear hits

Do you think it deserves a perk higher then the M18 or T3485?

[FBKampfer]

Do you think it deserves a perk higher then the M18 or T3485?

Very much so. Past 1000m or so, it's gun is inferior to the Panzer IV Ausf. H with both AP and HVAP. The Firefly's 17lber remains superior to the Panther's KwK42 at all ranges.

The M4 family ostensibly has stronger frontal armor as well, though this depends greatly on range and angle of impact.

[JunkyII]

Very much so. Past 1000m or so, it's gun is inferior to the Panzer IV Ausf. H with both AP and HVAP. The Firefly's 17lber remains superior to the Panther's KwK42 at all ranges.

The M4 family ostensibly has stronger frontal armor as well, though this depends greatly on range and angle of impact.

I feel in AH3 the T34 and M18 are better suited for the fight because the T34 can take the close shot from the tank he cant see in the trees and the M18 is fast enough it can avoid those shots....gameplay wise....the T3485 and the M18 are better tanks IMO.

But standoff long range shooting...the Firefly is one of the better ones. I agree

[lyric1]

When this tank first came out it was not perked at all.
At that time there was not the choices of vehicles that we have now, so it was eventually perked.
Personally it is such a rare tank to see in game I would lift the perk on this and the M4/76.

[FBKampfer]

I've always seen a fair number of Fireflys. I think they tend to be misidentified as M4(76)'s for the most part.

[Lusche]

I've always seen a fair number of Fireflys. I think they tend to be misidentified as M4(76)'s for the most part.

A quick and very rough tank & tank destroyer 'usage' statistic for the 1st quarter 2017

(percentage of all kills of and deaths by vehicles)

T-34/85      30.6%
Panzer IV H   29.5%
M4A3(76)W   6.3%
M-18      5.7%
T-34/76      5.3%
Panther G   5.2%
Panzer IV F   4.5%
M4A3(75)   4.4%
Jagdpanzer 38   2.8%
Sherman VC   1.8%
Tiger I      1.7%
Tiger 2      1.4%
Jagdpanzer IV   0.5%
Jagdpanther   0.4%