END PERKS FOR MAP WINS

[Vraciu]

All that awarding perks for winning a map causes is a spike to ENY which makes people log off. 

End the map-win perk system.   Let the bandwagoners stay on their own team.

We had a great fight going then ENY kicked in and now it's dying off.   ENY is not worth the hassle and the perk/win thing only exacerbates it.

Just my opinion.  <S>

[JimmyD3]

-1 

[Vraciu]

See rule #4

[bozon]

winning the map gets you measly 25 perks. I did 23 perks in a single sortie yesterday. I added those 23 perks to the other 21,000 or so that are gathering dust in my hangar.

[Lusche]

winning the map gets you measly 25 perks. I did 23 perks in a single sortie yesterday. I added those 23 perks to the other 21,000 or so that are gathering dust in my hangar.

You got 3x25=25 perks.

For the average player, that's quite a lot. They don't do 23 perk sorties either - in fighter and attack mode the median perk gain per hour is more like 2-5.

[bozon]

You got 3x25=25 perks.

For the average player, that's quite a lot. They don't do 23 perk sorties either - in fighter and attack mode the median perk gain per hour is more like 2-5.

Sure, I am an above average player that flies an ENY30 monster. Other players offest this by playing a lot more hours than me.

 The stronger point I was making is the 2nd - these perks are useless. I have no interest in flying the perked planes. 262s I roll only when these's a chance for jet-on-jet action, and usually I end up doing silly things with them, like deacking and strafing GVs.

I really cant see the 25 perks per category as a coveted prize.

[Lusche]

The stronger point I was making is the 2nd - these perks are useless. I have no interest in flying the perked planes. 262s I roll only when these's a chance for jet-on-jet action, and usually I end up doing silly things with them, like deacking and strafing GVs.

I really cant see the 25 perks per category as a coveted prize.

That's not a stronger point, because it's just about you again. You have no interest - many other players, especially somewhat newer ones, do. So much that they have to be regulated by the perk system. And for those, the war perks are a notable source of 'income'. I still remember how much I was after them until I was able to generate a steady stream of fighter perks by myself.
Oh, and I was very interested in flying perk planes up to the very end... 

That doesn't mean a specific stance of mine on this wish, I'm personally totally indifferent to it.

[AAIK]

That's not a stronger point, because it's just about you again. You have no interest - many other players, especially somewhat newer ones, do. So much that they have to be regulated by the perk system. And for those, the war perks are a notable source of 'income'. I still remember how much I was after them until I was able to generate a steady stream of fighter perks by myself.
Oh, and I was very interested in flying perk planes up to the very end... 

That doesn't mean a specific stance of mine on this wish, I'm personally totally indifferent to it.

Lusche, I think he is just presenting a precedence that occurs within a section of the players. I too am in this situation, as well are most of my squad mates, too many perks (of one kind) to use.

[Lusche]

Lusche, I think he is just presenting a precedence that occurs within a section of the players. I too am in this situation, as well are most of my squad mates, too many perks (of one kind) to use.

Oh, I know he is. But I just want to point out that this is just a subset of the AH demography and how much such change to the perk distribution methods may impact the 'common pilot'.
For the majority of players, 75 perks ain't trivial and they have good use for it.

[AAIK]

Oh, I know he is. But I just want to point out that this is just a subset of the AH demography and how much such change to the perk distribution methods may impact the 'common pilot'.
For the majority of players, 75 perks ain't trivial and they have good use for it.

I dunno, but maybe there is an alternative that may make everyone happy: How about award much more perk points based on the usage of perk vehicles? So, if there are a lot of perk fighters being used, the winners get more tank and bomber perks points.

I would be glad to use a tiger 2 or something without having to grind tank points.

[The Fugitive]

Lusche, I think he is just presenting a precedence that occurs within a section of the players. I too am in this situation, as well are most of my squad mates, too many perks (of one kind) to use.

I dunno, but maybe there is an alternative that may make everyone happy: How about award much more perk points based on the usage of perk vehicles? So, if there are a lot of perk fighters being used, the winners get more tank and bomber perks points.

I would be glad to use a tiger 2 or something without having to grind tank points.

So which is it? You have perks to burn, or you dont?

I dont think the issue of people swapping sides to get the perk points is all that big a deal. If people do it, they only do it once because they learn they dont get the perks unless they have been on that team for 12 hours.

As for earning oodles of perks per flight, only the top players do that. Like Lusche said, earning perks for the average and the many below average players perks are hard to come by. I know a certain pony pilot who is very good at killing in his pony and lands lots of kills all the time. He rarely has perks enough for a 262, but that is because he is almost always in his pony and doesnt get a very good perk multiplier.

[AAIK]

So which is it? You have perks to burn, or you dont?

Don't be a smarty pants, I think you can understand my situation from what has been said.

[waystin2]

I agree with this post.  Vraciu should no longer get perks for map wins.

[Volron]

I agree with this post.  Vraciu should no longer get perks for map wins.

 

[Vraciu]

I agree with this post.  Vraciu should no longer get perks for map wins.