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Offline Lazerr

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Re: Complaints
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2017, 01:59:29 PM »
Lol, Dont you guys get tired of whining?

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Re: Complaints
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2017, 02:01:39 PM »
Award proxy kills at the expense of a bomb and bailer.  Problem solved.

Really the only solution.

If I waste 15-30 minutes chasing bombers and they bail. Its not going to want me to continue playing unless I get rewarded for the time, IE kills. The only reason to go after the bombers is for kills. If there is no reason to go after bombers, whats the point of playing the game?

Yes.. just leave the bombers unopposed and start resupplying what they bomb.  It will take you 30% of the time to resupply it compared to the time it takes a buff to get there.   :D


This really does need to get looked at.

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Re: Complaints
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2017, 02:49:49 PM »
It's esta not este.   Cosa is feminine.
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Re: Complaints
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2017, 02:56:32 PM »
Lock the bail option unless there is critical damage to the bomber.   :rofl
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Re: Complaints
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2017, 03:21:35 PM »
Do you have the number for that truck driving school?   Truckmaster I think it is.   I might need that.
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Re: Complaints
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2017, 03:25:38 PM »
There's a difference between reality and game.

In reality, killing bombers on their way home makes a lot of sense, becuase it prevents them from returning tomorrow. In here, killing them after the drop is hurting the own war efforts, because they will return sooner than they would after flying home first. Not shooting them doens't help, because the correct strategy to win the war is to bail anyway (unless getting shot down before being able to bail).

There's also a difference between flying for the war, and flying for personal score.

Bombing strats and bailing helps the war effort. Repeatedly even more so. It doesn't matter whether it ends by bailing or being shot down - whatever is faster works best. Ignoring the war, and just flying for kills, of course the easiest way to get kills is by taking down bombers on short final, or AFK on a long flight.

If only there was some kind of mechanic that turned a somewhat historically meaningful behavior into something that helps the war effor the most. This includes some incentive (for the war) not to bail, and probably many other things. And if only there was some metric built into score that would figure in the benefit on the war, instead of just counting empty AFK bombers taken down (or proxied).

Basically, no matter what personal goal each player look at, the ways to achieve it should be compatible.

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Re: Complaints
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2017, 03:36:38 PM »
GOOSE! You're alive?  :x

You keep asking me to talk to you, MAVERICK.  :rofl
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Offline bustr

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Re: Complaints
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2017, 03:56:01 PM »
Lock the bail option unless there is critical damage to the bomber.   :rofl

Then they will push the restart button on the front of their PC tower or hit the off switch on their laptop orr, just pull the power plug at the wall.

After 6 months or so of doing that a few times a night, they will be out of the game with hardware issues due to abusing the effective lifespan of their critical parts. 

When you look at it from a larger consumer contract view, these bomber players and cybro both have paid HTC their monthly fee completing a consumer contract in good faith. Which means if cybro wants to sit in hangers all night or the bomber players want to fly for 2 hours then bail over the target every time they fly a mission.  Their consumer contract with Hitech for $14.95 a month says they can do this as much as they want, and you can watch if you want to waste your time. They are not violating any arena rules nor the rules of the consumer contract with HTC in how they choose to play our game.

It's up to you to flip a coin on the odds if the bomber player you have decided to intercept is a bailer or a fighter. It's not Hitech's job to hold his arms behind his back and a gun to to his head just so you can get your kills. Everyone has the right to bail out of their plane for any reason they want at any time they want in any arena type hosted by HTC.

The only argument after this is Hitech once again is a meaniee and, and, and, someone get you the URL for that truck game. Don't worry, after you pass out from holding your breath, your autonomic nervous system will start your breathing back up. I seem to remember last October sawzaw ran a gigantic rant on 200 about Hitech being a meaniee and the community hated him so he was quitting because he wasn't getting what he wanted. His ghost is doing a bang up job landing kills to this day in the Melee arena.
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Re: Complaints
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2017, 04:41:40 PM »
I know it is an old subject, but it still bugs me.

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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2017, 05:20:24 PM »

To what other combat simulations do, attrition warfare, limit the number of available aircraft and vehicles at each base.

Make kills count for something.... other than points. Not returning to base Should have consequences for a players side/team.

Fighters dogfight to gain air superiority over the battlefield.  In other words keep destroying other guys aircraft till he has no more. 

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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2017, 05:52:38 PM »
Why not just remove the ability to bail from every plane. We're here to fight, after all...
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Re: Complaints
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2017, 06:03:44 PM »
Maybe add a higher proxy distance  for bombers. For instance fighters are 1.0 I think. Put bombers to 6.0 proxy range so this way even if they bomb and bail you get the kill. Problem solved I think.

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Re: Complaints
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2017, 07:15:24 PM »
Add code such that bailing an undamaged plane (any of the 3 in a formation) results in a waiting period before you can up again.

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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2017, 07:41:08 PM »
Why not just remove the ability to bail from every plane. We're here to fight, after all...

Since money and a customer contract is involved and the players with the most whines under their belts want paying customers "punished" for not playing other than how those paying customers want to play for their $14.95. Dot's suggestion is about the best we will ever get if Hitech were to take any of this seriously. Then pulling the power cord or hitting the reset switch on the PC tower case would be the next whine on the belt for Hitech to do something about. He probably could write a routine that would tell the OS not to respond to a restart command while the game was running. Butttt, it's that old plug in wall physical thing he has no control over.

I'm amazed you gents don't go as far as filming your bomber intercepts so you can name names here in the forums of paying customers not playing the game your way. That would get an instant response from Hitech and Skuzzy on this obvious world ending issue if that's what you are really hoping for.
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Re: Complaints
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2017, 07:53:42 PM »
Bustr I get excited when I hear you talk about people getting "punished".       ;)
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