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Offline Shuffler

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Re: The game play
« Reply #90 on: June 19, 2017, 12:38:19 PM »
Are you saying that OP doesn't know what he is talking about even though he is an old stick?  i'm not the one that made this thread.
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Re: The game play
« Reply #91 on: June 19, 2017, 01:49:44 PM »
GAME PLAY WAS GREAT THIS AM logged in an there was 28 bish, 8 knight, and 13 rooks.  it was exhilarating.  any field you tried to defend you were quickly swarmed and horded, at other times you didn't even have to worry about flying because you couldn't get off the field.  when the 3 or 4 planes vs 1 didn't work well they just called in several more.  I did go to attack a base that was wf from a capture but you know they quickly upped three or four to defend and I was swatted down.  then to top it off during the inhalation sweep of the bish the rooks began to attack knight bases as if we were not busy enough.  then I check the roster and find two that had been knights had changed to bish?  side balance?
I ask this, what if this would have been someones first day to the game, they would be assigned to knights and there worthless attempts to up would have been very frustrating and unexplained. 
this might as well be a two sided war, combine the rook and knight forces and we still wouldn't have the numbers.  ENY is worthless and no good as proved by this morning nonsense.  this continues to be the norm until about 4pm my time and seems to be getting worse. BUT AGAIN GREAT GAME PLAY THIS MORNING

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« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2017, 02:13:07 PM »
GAME PLAY WAS GREAT THIS AM logged in an there was 28 bish, 8 knight, and 13 rooks.  it was exhilarating.  any field you tried to defend you were quickly swarmed and horded, at other times you didn't even have to worry about flying because you couldn't get off the field.  when the 3 or 4 planes vs 1 didn't work well they just called in several more.  I did go to attack a base that was wf from a capture but you know they quickly upped three or four to defend and I was swatted down.  then to top it off during the inhalation sweep of the bish the rooks began to attack knight bases as if we were not busy enough.  then I check the roster and find two that had been knights had changed to bish?  side balance?
I ask this, what if this would have been someones first day to the game, they would be assigned to knights and there worthless attempts to up would have been very frustrating and unexplained. 
this might as well be a two sided war, combine the rook and knight forces and we still wouldn't have the numbers.  ENY is worthless and no good as proved by this morning nonsense.  this continues to be the norm until about 4pm my time and seems to be getting worse. BUT AGAIN GREAT GAME PLAY THIS MORNING

Sounds like a lot of fun, sorry I missed it.  I love being outnumbered, you sure can't complain about lack of action in those circumstances.
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Re: The game play
« Reply #93 on: June 20, 2017, 02:47:14 AM »
I played for about 90 minutes today (I think).  Certainly was not much of a session in terms of length anyway.

I called it quits as we were totally outnumbering the enemy on our available fronts.  Sure I could have changed teams however that does not guarantee me fights in an hours time and I would be stuck there for the duration of the change timer.  Just easier to log off and go find a better use of my time.

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« Reply #94 on: June 20, 2017, 02:52:51 PM »
That's why there need to be in-game system that puts players on teams so its equal.<---this is dumb---if people can't play where they want they will just quit

If there are 3 sides and all planes for everyone, it doesn't matter which team you are on.

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« Reply #95 on: June 20, 2017, 03:03:57 PM »
Any why it would be ludicrous? Please explain.

Squad wants to fly together - so they fly together, just on a side picked by the game so the game is balanced, what's the problem with that? There is no AvA, there are no 2 sides, every plane is the same, there is no reason there should be a problem with this for anyone.

if players/squads single players are forced to play on a side they don't like they will quit.

there is no reason there should be a problem with this for anyone.<-- if you played this game longer than 2 weeks you would know that people on these countries don't like each other there are people on rooks who don't like some people on the other 2 countries and etc- and vice versa.
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Squad wants to fly together - so they fly together, just on a side picked by the game so the game is balanced, what's the problem with that?

yeah what happens if only half the squad is sent to another country, they will just log off.
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Re: The game play
« Reply #96 on: June 20, 2017, 03:12:31 PM »
NUGETX why do you insist on suggesting changes that will make people quit this wonderful game.

all the suggestion's  you make in one way or another will hurt this game

HiTech has told you several times that your ideas won't work.
 HiTech has well over 18 years in this business, I think he knows by now what will and won't work in this game, mostly because he has already tried them.  :bhead

 
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« Reply #97 on: June 20, 2017, 03:22:08 PM »
GAME PLAY WAS GREAT THIS AM logged in an there was 28 bish, 8 knight, and 13 rooks.  it was exhilarating.  any field you tried to defend you were quickly swarmed and horded, at other times you didn't even have to worry about flying because you couldn't get off the field.  when the 3 or 4 planes vs 1 didn't work well they just called in several more.  I did go to attack a base that was wf from a capture but you know they quickly upped three or four to defend and I was swatted down.  then to top it off during the inhalation sweep of the bish the rooks began to attack knight bases as if we were not busy enough.  then I check the roster and find two that had been knights had changed to bish?  side balance?
I ask this, what if this would have been someones first day to the game, they would be assigned to knights and there worthless attempts to up would have been very frustrating and unexplained. 
this might as well be a two sided war, combine the rook and knight forces and we still wouldn't have the numbers.  ENY is worthless and no good as proved by this morning nonsense.  this continues to be the norm until about 4pm my time and seems to be getting worse. BUT AGAIN GREAT GAME PLAY THIS MORNING


Flippz is right as rain-when I logged in it was 35 bish 14 knights 13 rooks- also noticed a couple of Knights switched to bish..
side balancing In reverse.

HiTech you or/and Skuzzy need to log on the game when you get to the office, and see this for your selves--bish usualy have more players than nit and rooks put together, they get and eny 24-29% and none switch your currant eny program is not working.

PLEASE log in and take a look.
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Re: The game play
« Reply #98 on: June 20, 2017, 03:48:14 PM »
NUGETX why do you insist on suggesting changes that will make people quit this wonderful game.

all the suggestion's  you make in one way or another will hurt this game


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Re: The game play
« Reply #99 on: June 20, 2017, 04:04:19 PM »
Amazes me that some complain of no action then complain when there is action.
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Re: The game play
« Reply #100 on: June 20, 2017, 04:40:12 PM »
Howdy- I have not been on forums here or played for like 2 or 3 years.  I see things have not changed much except for the graphics and engine sounds-they are superb.  The last time I played, it was one wall of planes against another.  One side would try to get altitude on the other, dive for energy, blast what they could and then retreat.  I was in a Yak and got chased round and round by a player in an A20 who actually was turning with me and I thought this is it- I'm outta here.  I have not played since.

Sorry to see that game play is still so much of an issue.  AH is not alone in this respect.  The other sims that grew out of the original War Birds have similar issues.  I have seen WW2 arenas melt down to 3 or 4 players because most players headed for the open arena so they could bash each other for points I guess.  I personally liked a sim that incorporated  some strategy, but strategy takes time and patience and a lot of players don't have it. 

Anyway I thought Traveler made some good points.  Players are different these days.  And I think that the overall effect of the points ladder is to stimulate score "whoring" and quick and dirty play styles.   There are other aspects to play as others have pointed but significant change does not seem possible at present.

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« Reply #101 on: June 20, 2017, 04:47:52 PM »
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if you played this game longer than 2 weeks you would know that people on these countries don't like each other there are people on rooks who don't like some people on the other 2 countries and etc- and vice versa.

It's not a games problem that some people do not like each other.

Face the music.

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« Reply #102 on: June 20, 2017, 06:21:38 PM »
It's not a games problem that some people do not like each other.

Face the music.

No its not, but forcing them together will only cause more issues, one of which is players quitting.

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« Reply #103 on: June 20, 2017, 06:47:34 PM »
Perhaps simply disallow sides witching to the high-numbered side, regardless of any other timers in place?

For squadrons, perhaps the squad leader and privileged members can set a country for the squad, and upon logging in, members are notified if the country has changed, and given the option to be automatically placed with their squad?
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Re: The game play
« Reply #104 on: June 20, 2017, 07:14:19 PM »
Amazes me that some complain of no action then complain when there is action.
its not really complaining shuf, but when you log in and all you can do is drive m3s, which still get swarmmed for 3 hrs thats not a very good showing.  i dont mind resupping but i dont want to be put in a position that is my only choice.  i tried many many times to up that day and many other mornings with no avail.  the point i am getting at is what if that was my first day?  for sure if a new person would have logged in that day they would have been a knight to my understanding the new guy goes to lowest numbered side.  that would have been horrible.  it seems lately it has gotten worse for both knight and rooks.  thats my point not really the "action" but the presentation of action.  and eny is a joke.