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Offline NatCigg

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Re: War
« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2017, 08:53:39 PM »
Yes it's quite a thing...


https://youtu.be/OLsajdOFuAc

made it to 1:28 "total garbage" was it for me.

his huffpost editorial source was read well.

"stay out of our yard" is what i think the russians said.  us shooting down their plane in defense of allied ground forces?  hmm?  :headscratch:  im not expert, thats a act of war.

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« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2017, 09:45:05 PM »
Some of the root to the Assyrian civil war, Assad's brutal use of force to hold onto power, and Russia's involvement. Assad is not a Muslim, he is an Alawites, and his father and then himself made the overture of courting Sunni influence to the Alawites in Syria so as to look like a legitimatized Muslim regime in the region. The map below is the result of the French Mandate for Syria, as you can see, the Alawites state is the same then as the Alawites region today. Being friends with Russia makes more sense not being a legitimate recognized sect of Islam.


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Syria by Group or religious affiliation.


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Recent map of who has control of what oil, and it looks a bit like a division of the country by religious and ethnic lines similar the old French Mandate. Turkey black market oil re-sellers have always bought boot legged oil from from Syria since before the civil war. Those re-sellers are still buying it from the Kurd's and ISIS, oil is oil. Once ISIS is gone who are Islamic, which all sides agree has to happen. The Kurd's will still have oil feilds to support their cause which Assad will want back. How do the resistance forces who are Sunni Islamic win against Assad and the Russians? Create an alliance with the Kurd's who are not all considered Islamic? Will the US switch to helping the resistance and Kurd's? This is super Bellyflop Krudtasticly stupid trying to apply a western view of conflict to peoples divided by religious and cultural sects in a country created by Europeans against their will for access to oil and possible mineral reserves almost a century ago.

So is this really a war between Assad, Sunni's, ISIS and the Kurd's over control of oil feilds? Without the oil exports and domestic energy production, not much else is in that region to support a population the size of Syria stuffed into cities next to one of the most arid deserts in the world that Palmyra and an oil field sits in.


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bustr, i believe this is not about Syria only, let's zoom out of the box map; see below; It's a dangerous scheme, cornering the bear standing against NWO with more sanctions every day and military intimidation lately. 



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Re: War
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2017, 08:08:13 AM »

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« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2017, 01:43:54 PM »
bustr, i believe this is not about Syria only, let's zoom out of the box map; see below; It's a dangerous scheme, cornering the bear standing against NWO with more sanctions every day and military intimidation lately. 

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Before any of that is relevant, Assad is an Alawites, once Saddam was his allie and is gone now. He is not a muslim but, he is fighting a civil war against his majority muslim people, ISIS, and the Kurds to regain control of his country and his oil feilds. He has always used extreme measures to maintain control over his muslim majority population just like Saddam who was part of a muslim cultural minority and Ba'ath party. The only pressure on Assad until that first red line stupidity during the Arab spring was to not attack Israel. Until this civil war and ISIS, Assad owned his oil fields and freely exported his oil to the world. As we all can see, regime change in that country is a clusterflop and no one was interested because Assad even as a unpalatable dictator kept his part of the region stable. Look what happened to Egypt and Libya with regime change. ISIS has to go because they have been using Syria's oilfields to fund their operations which Turkey had happily purchased. After that what, the UN\NATO tells Assad he is a bad dictator in a region full of evil bad dictators so he has to go and hand his country over to who? The muslim brotherhood, Kurds, Iran, while Russia is his allie and building bases in his country.       
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« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2017, 03:18:20 PM »
Bashar al-Assad is actually one of the more palatable dictators in the region. Before becoming heir apparent to his father's dictatorship when his elder brother died, Bashar was happily living in London with his British wife and working as an eye surgeon. When he came to power in 2000 after his father's death Bashar was initially reform minded and won the election in 2014, receiving 88.7% of votes in the first contested presidential election in Ba'athist Syria's history. An international delegation who observed the election issued a statement asserting that the election was "free and fair". All that changed with the "Arab Spring". In my opinion it would be in the best interest of everyone except the Jihadists that Assad wins the war and remain in power. If the Arab Spring has shown us anything it is that these people do not want peaceful stable democracies.
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« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2017, 04:24:45 PM »
If you remove the EU, US, and Russia, who has the most to gain in that region if Assad was removed? Ultimately who had the most to gain from the Arab Spring?
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« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2017, 10:14:14 PM »
edit: on second thought, arguing about a post from a 29 year old inexperienced kid is useless.
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« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2017, 05:48:14 PM »
LOL this kid is funny. Is this a comedy show somewhere?
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« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2017, 07:14:48 PM »
edit: on second thought, arguing about a post from a 29 year old inexperienced kid is useless.

Hope you don't mean me, I'm a 60 year old inexperienced kid.
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« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2017, 07:44:47 AM »
RT news is hilarious.
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« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2017, 08:11:04 AM »
RT (and sputnik news) are propaganda channels and should not be seen as reliable by anyone. (No they are not just any other media)
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« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2017, 02:20:33 PM »
bustr, i believe this is not about Syria only, let's zoom out of the box map; see below; It's a dangerous scheme, cornering the bear standing against NWO with more sanctions every day and military intimidation lately. 

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The strategy of containment is...oh....about 70 years old now. I think they have gotten used to it. Most of those US flags on that map show what is very small US contingents that are mostly symbolic and any action taken in those countries would be at the mercy of the Host country.

American deployments are far, far smaller then in '78 when I was in NATO. NATO is far less an offensive threat to Russian then it was then. Militarily speaking.

This has nothing to do with military deployments. Put it this way, since we cant speak of Politics, military deployments and actions of the future will almost certainly have something to do with access to resources. Oil, Natural gas, strategic metals, diamonds, important minerals, food , fresh water...they will almost always be whats hiding behind that Queen on the chess board. Either the resources themselves or the strategic choke points need to secure them.
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« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2017, 09:09:56 PM »
RT (and sputnik news) are propaganda channels and should not be seen as reliable by anyone. (No they are not just any other media)

<-- brainwashed commie . :rofl

I like to see both sides of the coin; truth is in the middle. Behind the iron curtain, i used to listen western propaganda; voice of America and Free Europe radio, was illegal; i knew  commies are lying ; Over the past 20 years i'm sensing same flavor in most North American and European MSM  ,same cabal brainwashing the masses , demonizing nations twisting and prepping people's minds to accept immigration/wars just to fulfill their secret agenda.
Even the POTUS doesn't trust them anymore.

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« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2017, 09:34:58 PM »
If you remove the EU, US, and Russia, who has the most to gain in that region if Assad was removed? Ultimately who had the most to gain from the Arab Spring?

I don't want to sound politic or antisemitic, because i'm not ,here is what i believe is going on; There are 6.4 million Jewish living in Israel and 7 million in United States. This is their promised land, something is going to happen in United States and they will return ; the evacuation of this area has already began , shifting large population towards Europe. Nothing is going to stop this exodus, but is going to get ugly soon .


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« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2017, 11:15:48 PM »
Do it Kyle, prove Mel Gibson wrong!