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Offline Kanth

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broken record
« on: June 22, 2017, 03:48:57 PM »
Canadian Sniper breaks record. What a hell of a shot.   :cheers:  :salute


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/22/report-canadian-sniper-kills-isis-fighter-2-miles-away/418889001/

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The 3,450-meter shot, which took about 10 seconds to reach its target, was independently verified by a video camera and other data, the source said.
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Re: broken record
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2017, 03:51:34 PM »
Yes, we figured the bullet drop would be about 1600 feet, over that distance.

Can you imagine his initial reaction when given the orders,...."You want me to do what?" 
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Re: broken record
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2017, 03:54:45 PM »
Imagine that and he was using a Canuk made weapon!



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Re: broken record
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 03:59:37 PM »
Sorry morf, the weapon a McMillan TAC-50, is produced in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Re: broken record
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 04:04:35 PM »
“And from that distance you actually have to account for the curvature of the Earth.”

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Re: broken record
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 04:30:40 PM »
I think the sniper more like said, wtf, I should have gotten a lottery ticket instead.


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Re: broken record
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2017, 12:19:06 AM »
Even if you manage to compensate for bullet drop, wind etc the bullet dispersion still is bigger than a human so you simply need a good bit of luck to hit.
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Re: broken record
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 06:05:07 AM »
No to mention a target which is not going to move for 10 seconds, or more.
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Re: broken record
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2017, 10:45:14 AM »
(cough)

I will say that the Canadian marksman program for our army is world class. I know, I taught it. And to be a sniper in a army team, you have to be marksman qualified to get into the program. The sniper program is two-roles - sniper and spotter. Here's the kicker, if you're a spotter,  you're also a sniper. We train both roles into the same group. So a spotter is also an experienced sniper, and a sniper is also an experienced spotter.  There are no 'just spotter' jobs in a sniper team.  We found that having the spotter understand the stresses of a sniper were helpful in the field so that they knew the challenges of the role - and vice versa.  These kinds of snipers are #3 and #4 on the world's longest sniper shots.

Now, if you're in our JTF special forces, not only are you a marksman and a top soldier, you need to pass our entrance exams similar to the American SEAL team.  So now you've taken our marksmen and top soldiers, and then train them to do spotting and sniping. And in the JTF - we train everyone to do all jobs - radio/comms, sniping, LMG, anti-tank... doesn't matter. JTF all roles are interchangeable. And top it off, over 30% of our Army grunts, have post-secondary education, and all who even enter the army, have to obtain good marks in high school. So our group of JTF soldiers are well educated, cross-roll trained, and are the best of our best.  Now throw those kind of soldiers into our sniper program, we get a 3.5 km kill shot (2.18 miles).

And we're commenting on the fact that a JTF sniper made this shot with pure luck... hmmm.... and strange that the top 5 longest sniper shots in the world, 3 are Canadian... hmmmm :grin:

More here: http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-different-level-of-military-sniper/
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Re: broken record
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2017, 11:09:32 AM »
Not disagreeing with any of that, but Zimme's not wrong about the dispersion.  A fair bit had to go spectacularly right on that shot.

Far as I'm concerned hitting something the size of a 3 ton truck at that range is amazing, nevermind a human.

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Re: broken record
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2017, 11:09:54 AM »
Oh, there is no way it is pure luck, but there are some things which cannot be controlled by the sniper which have to play along in order for it all to work.

Yes, I noted the top snipers were mostly from Canada.  Not trying to take anything away from the efforts at all.  It is impressive, regardless of the circumstances.
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Re: broken record
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2017, 12:37:52 PM »
Oh, there is no way it is pure luck, but there are some things which cannot be controlled by the sniper which have to play along in order for it all to work.

Yes, I noted the top snipers were mostly from Canada.  Not trying to take anything away from the efforts at all.  It is impressive, regardless of the circumstances.
No worries. It's just a testy subject of mine since I used to teach it.

And you're bang on the things which cannot be controlled.  The interesting thing about those .50 calibre strikes, they are one-shot kills as there is so much energy in the bullet. If it strikes your shoulder, chest or leg for example, or even glances off your noggin, it's not pretty.
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Re: broken record
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2017, 12:58:23 PM »
After 3+k km there arent that much energy left, enough to be lethal but prob less than a .30 at point blank range..
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Re: broken record
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2017, 01:14:40 PM »
If I knew the specifics about the bullet round and the exact model of the TAC-50 used, we could crunch the numbers pretty easily.
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Re: broken record
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2017, 01:25:15 PM »
Oh, there is no way it is pure luck, but there are some things which cannot be controlled by the sniper which have to play along in order for it all to work.

Yes, I noted the top snipers were mostly from Canada.  Not trying to take anything away from the efforts at all.  It is impressive, regardless of the circumstances.


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