F-35 at Paris Air show

[PR3D4TOR]

Nice moves.



https://youtu.be/YeqryYh_yw0

[DaveBB]

That big engine certainly allows it to regain any lost energy in a hurry.

[icepac]

See Rule #4

[Zimme83]

What are there to say? Its an air show.

[Oldman731]

What are there to say? Its an air show.

True enough.  OTOH, the just-over-stall-speed-to-loop transition cannot be sniffed at.  The plane appears to have plenty of power, and very good low-speed controlability.  Whether those factors matter in combat may be another question.  Hey, it didn't shoot anyone down at Paris.

Most impressive air show performance I ever saw was the Harrier.  This guy came close.

To give equal time and be fair, of course, you should see this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaJYDtzhCkc


- oldman

[Vraciu]

That big engine certainly allows it to regain any lost energy in a hurry.

Not really.  And only down low if that.

[Vraciu]

See Rule #4

[Vraciu]

True enough.  OTOH, the just-over-stall-speed-to-loop transition cannot be sniffed at.  The plane appears to have plenty of power, and very good low-speed controlability.  Whether those factors matter in combat may be another question.  Hey, it didn't shoot anyone down at Paris.

Most impressive air show performance I ever saw was the Harrier.  This guy came close.

To give equal time and be fair, of course, you should see this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaJYDtzhCkc


- oldman

Super Hornet demo far more impressive than this JSF thing...

[nrshida]

The plane appears to have plenty of power

I wonder for how many minutes on internal fuel.

[Vraciu]

I wonder for how many minutes on internal fuel.

Not long at all.  This is a four minute demo because the T-35 is a dog.   Add any more gas and it will be good for flybys.   This is fake news/marketing.   The Super Hornet demo is 15 minutes long--yet the Super is considered relatively short-legged--and far more impressive overall.

Notice also the persistent wingtip vapor trails.  This tells you a lot about the Joint Strike Failure and it isn't good. 

It needs to be canceled but we are in too deep to pull out now. 

[icepac]

No weapons, light on gas.   Define performing well.  It's relative.   Compared to a P-51, sure.

Ah....the same exact conditions that all the stripped out russian demo planes uses?

I don't think this f35 was as "empty" as any of the russian demo planes.

[Vraciu]

Ah....the same exact conditions that all the stripped out russian demo planes uses?

I don't think this f35 was as "empty" as any of the russian demo planes.

The Russian demo planes are already heavier by default and performed longer demonstrations.     They're more capable all around in any configuration. 

I have been avoiding T/A-35 threads like the plague.   It's a waste of effort bothering to comment.   Minds are made up despite the airplane's myriad rash of continuing problems.   

[icepac]

See Rule #4

[Vraciu]

See Rule #4

[PR3D4TOR]

"The F-35’s maneuverability is all the more impressive because, unlike the F-16s that perform at air shows, the Joint Strike Fighter flying the demonstration this week is fully combat-ready. Flynn’s F-35A will move easily through complex aerial maneuvers loaded with everything it needs to go to war."

http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2017/f-35-demo-pilot-paris-performance-will-crush-years-misinformation