F-35 at Paris Air show

[Vraciu]

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[Krusty]

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[Arlo]

That's it .... I'm video-bombing this purse-fight with a REAL plane.



 

[Vraciu]

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[Vraciu]

That's it .... I'm video-bombing this purse-fight with a REAL plane.

https://youtu.be/yfNX1kpF95Q

 

Wassssuuuuuuuuuuup?    Lol

[Zimme83]

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[nrshida]

Su-27 (from which the Su-35 is derived) first flew in 1977. Totally irrelevant comparison. In fact it should be a totally irrelevant comparison. The fact they are remotely comparible in any way is a tragic commentary on the JSF programme. Should be an all-aspect stealthy, huge payload-toting, viffing, super-agile, fuel efficient vision-from-the-future, shooting glitter out of its tailpipe on demand for the resources, technology, (international) money and man-hours they've spent on it.

It's simply a product of a fatally flawed design process. Nice business model though. That's been the really clever part.

[Arlo]

I found meme! (Lots and lots)

(Too many to post - would cause a pie fight in my AH family.)

(Can't believe I resisted.)

Here's a Corsair:

[PR3D4TOR]

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[Vraciu]

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[PR3D4TOR]

John Richard Boyd would have loved the F-35. Not for its kinetics, but because it is almost entirely designed around Boyd's Cycle (OODA loop). The F-35's sensor fusion and stealth gives its pilot the advantage of staying way ahead of the adversary's decision process. The F-35 practically does all of the observation and orientation itself leaving the pilot to concentrate on the decision and action.

[Vraciu]

John Richard Boyd would have loved the F-35. Not for its kinetics, but because it is almost entirely designed around Boyd's Cycle (OODA loop). The F-35's sensor fusion and stealth gives its pilot the advantage of staying way ahead of the adversary's decision process. The F-35 practically does all of the observation and orientation itself leaving the pilot to concentrate on the decision and action.

You obviously don't understand a thing about the man with a position like that.  Fancy Gizmos don't work on the first day of the war.  Never will.  This airplane is too complex and too compromised to be good at ANYTHING and Boyd would be the first one to point that out.

Pierre Sprey did it in his stead. 

[PR3D4TOR]

Pierre Sprey is stuck in the Vietnam War. Just sad.

[Vraciu]

Pierre Sprey is stuck in the Vietnam War. Just sad.

And the JSF is, too.   F-111 redux (with worse performance).

I'll take his word over yours. 

This thing will never work.  Betting the future of US air power on this turkey is a tragic mistake. 

[PR3D4TOR]

And I'll take the word of every F-35 pilot from about a dozen different nations over yours and Sprey's.