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Offline FORK2

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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 05:07:31 PM »
Don't threaten me unless you want to lose another subscriber, this game is declining and has been declining for years.

 it's almost dead as you well know or you would have NEVER suggested going to steam. It's a desperate move and you and I both know it. You want sycophants, you got 200 of them now. You want new players? Innovate... You want a healthy gaming community then don't come down from the mountain  only to  threaten them with "don't poke the bear"

I did not attack you personally. I did not threaten to leave the game if you did not listen. I did not bully YOU until you made the bear comment. I questioned your reasoning, you ARE NOT infallible.

having said that I admire you very much and love your game
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Offline atlau

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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 09:03:55 PM »
I just want the AI gunners to get the credit they deserve and if they kill someone they get the kill!

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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 10:54:54 PM »
Don't threaten me unless you want to lose another subscriber, this game is declining and has been declining for years.

 it's almost dead as you well know or you would have NEVER suggested going to steam. It's a desperate move and you and I both know it. You want sycophants, you got 200 of them now. You want new players? Innovate... You want a healthy gaming community then don't come down from the mountain  only to  threaten them with "don't poke the bear"

I did not attack you personally. I did not threaten to leave the game if you did not listen. I did not bully YOU until you made the bear comment. I questioned your reasoning, you ARE NOT infallible.

having said that I admire you very much and love your game

Sir,   ...really. You're a veritable fountain of positivity  :rolleyes:. You're free to leave if you wish if you are ultimately dissatisfied. Just be mindful of the front gate.
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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 11:47:03 PM »
I think he went from "poking the bear" to "punching the bear". :noid
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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2017, 03:59:28 PM »
Ok then by you all reasoning we should get rid of the AI gunners on ships too...

After all we don't need their guns as we're better at it. Can't have ships maneuvering and firing at the same time either. AND the AI gunners on the ships are either lasers or unpredictable.

How about this idea then.. have a check box in the hanger to either have AI gunners or not? Click it and you get manual, leave it and the default is AI gunners?

That way noobs can learn to bomb and fly without being suicides up against all you vets... and don't tell me all you super hot pilots can't deal with an AI gunner? I see you ppl deack a town in less than two min.
ships and planes 2 different situations cv's-cruisers and destroyers have way more guns then a box of bombers and would be impossible to fill every turret that's why Ships have AI's, and the players have control of the ships movement.
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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2017, 08:47:04 AM »
In the olden days in WB we had AI gunners in bombers.  If your field was being attacked get a few guys to roll bombers and let Otto take on the attackers.  If you attacked a field bring a few low level bombers and let Otto vulch the uppers.  It didn't take long for them to earn the name of deathstars. 
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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2017, 01:02:52 PM »
I suspect he didn't expect the response he got while believing because of Steam, Hitech is willing to make the game more friendly for a new gamer generation. And is willing to do things other games have done that go with making a fake leveled playing field.

[ it's almost dead as you well know or you would have NEVER suggested going to steam.]

[Maybe because anyone who could have benefited from the idea quit after two weeks because the game was too complex as every mission was a suicide?]

[I say we need to be thinking about new players, and new players WILL WANT AI GUNNERS, at least until they are experts like you all.]
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And yes Fork, you poked the bear, you just didn't think Hitech has any right to talk back to you after you set him straight. Any of us 200 sycophants would have gotten rule# or PNG'd for a week or so if we wrote this to his face. But, after 15 years or so I know better. You got more than most people for your wish idea, Hitech telling you why he won't be doing it. That is more than most ever get for posting in the Wish List.

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Maybe because anyone who could have benefited from the idea quit after two weeks because the game was too complex as every mission was a suicide?

Maybe no one has ever had the option?

 Maybe after 17 years somebody is thinking outside the box? Just because no one ever requested the idea before makes it a bad one.

Maybe sayin in Mississippi in 1965 "no has complained about voting rights in 17 years" meant everything was just peachy keen.
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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2017, 03:45:17 PM »
Besides Fork,  Gunning your own formation is the better part of a bomber sortie.   The dropping of eggs is just a task.  Start looking at a bomber mission as looking for prey.  I respect your wish and see your thinking, but you can be far more lethal to your enemy with good gunnery than AI.  Think about field auto ack.  Many times speed will take you through ack with a couple of hits, sometimes none.  Many times an enemy fighter is coming into the bomber formation in the same manner.  You just have to lead them.  And, you get three planes in your formation.  That is 3 deaths compared to the enemy which has only one life to give.  I would much rather keep things as they are and have more control over my own destiny.  Respectfully, I can't see a low population be due to no AI guns on bombers.  Thanks for your idea though.

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Re: Gunnery from bombers
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2017, 06:55:07 PM »
The only thing I want from my bombers is the ability to turn tracers off an all 3 buffs.  Then come to papa thinking that I am AFK....