the balance is out of whack

[JunkyII]

Junky, with all due respect, you've been complaining about this for ever. If there is no way to counter act the damage inflicted, there is no game play! Why can't you understand that???

The counter to Bombers hitting a town should be resupply it with m3s??? The counter to fighters hitting a town should be resupplying it with M3s??? Thats how it is right now..and that's why it is bad....you should to an extent have to out fight your opponent...upping M3s repeatedly is not a fight...just isn't.

ohh boo hoo hoo and while we are inguaged with fighter attack defending aur base your gv's and or bombers and m3's are attacking the town and base, are we supposed to just fly around and just try to shoot down planes while your gv's win the field. 2 or 3 M4-75's with rockets can wf a town in 10 minutes including deacking-you don't need a plane to deack a town when you have tanks in there.

M3 resupplying a town is fighting to save that town and base.

The field doesnt matter.....it's the fight for the field...I held off a bish horde for 20 minutes getting 18 kills in a firefly before they got me and took the field...you think I was mad that I died or they took the field?? No because it was a hella fun sortie with a lot of action...I could have probably ran 2 or 3 supps to town and stopped the attack all together....which was is more fun??? which one takes more skill??? which one is more effective???

[1stpar3]

Every one,well just about every one, makes descent points. True,more m-3s resupping kill the numbers available to up in fighters. Then again want a good GV fight dont most GVers love a good spawn camp? Camp the resupply spawns, that too would limit numbers of players in fighters, no? I can remember a time when numbers at Tank Town caused a fuss. In a base take or a defense M3s are required in some form. How do you stop m3s? YOU KILL THEM. Cant up from a vulched field, spawn M3s, right? So are we saying "Quit vulching and deacking a base". NOPE, thats what you like so be it. Again, along with that, from those that dont like ACK we get, "Dont have manned guns". Maybe not in this thread but we have all read them. "There is NO skill in killing planes trying to up" Ihear that at least once a day. I have no preference, try deacking my field, I will up a wirb. Kill VH and leave a manned gun up, YUP,I am going to man it.Why? Because I am more able to make a difference and kill a few of you that way.Me getting killed 30 times does nothing for my side.  Take my town to white flag I am going to up a M3 with sups.Why, because I probably wont be able to catch the empty bombers anyway and now its a M3 race to town.Your or mine, most spawns are same distance. If you whiteflag my town with tanks and take down ords,and it wont take more than 1 trip to bring them up, Yep, Im resupping ords to come heavy and drop a big bomb on your tank.Why, because I suck in tanks and if m3 is waiting to wf,I will never make a dent in stopping you anyway,so why not try my way. I dont like tanking much,I do my tank hunting from a Spitfire. I get a number of rage PMS every tour i am either a puss resupper or a puss bomb turd or whatever, know what? I wear it with pride! One more thing, its ALL fun for me. Well most of the time, I do get a bit irritated at times at all the slander and name calling some like to sling around. Some of it can be quite offensive, you all know who you,they, are. That too passes. Stopped many a base take with one Spitfire and 2 250# bombs, at least made them re up and gave time for others to roll in THEIR preferred rides for situation. So I guess my meaning is this, We have what we have, make the most of it! I nor anyone else is responsible for YOUR FUN or lack thereof! Maybe this isnt fun for you any more,do you really expect the game to bend to your will? Good luck with that. I do know this though, the way some of you try to change minds,ie name calling,curssing at and demeaning rhetoric wont cut it. For those in that camp,I suggest a good long look in a mirror....You may just be the problem If you love clubbing baby seals, maybe Wack-a-mole app is more in your wheel house! I loved it at Chucky Cheese when I was 9 I mean really, this is a COMBAT game true,,,,,it is that. Since when was combat fair or on your terms? Yes, the strategists try to plan for everything to be on their side, how often did that really work out? RIGHT rarely. This is still combat! Change your thinking, because you cant really control someone else's! That seems to be the gist to these complaints really. Why do folk up M3s more these days? IT WORKS and the strategy on losing side is stale and stuck in the past Do something about it instead of griping about everyone else. I mean honestly,if you have a town White flagged and De-acked and cant get the capture BEFORE the enemy gets an M3 with supplies in to green flag it...whos fault is it REALLY? The M3 Nope,dont believe so

[Zygote404]

If no dar and base or town flashing..probably gvs
Up and investigate.
Might be a noe..though...oh the mists of war.

Bit frustrating though.  Have been doing that but they bail.  Then when you land and go elsewhere they'll come back.  Cat and mouse stupidness. 

[Zygote404]

Getting shot up from a Wirby/Ostwind without icon get old fast.
They also enjoy ranging computer (plane icons) making it easy for them.

A good example is when they park at enemy runway's end in the treeline, is not spotted (have icon), yet they see you at full icon range.

That's interesting. Perhaps a solution is to have co-icon ranges for GVs.  GV ------- Plane icons appear at same distance whichever is shorter.

[JunkyII]

So people don't get my point confused...My argument is that I understand M3 resupply is very effective for keeping fields, I believe it shouldn't be as rewarding to a base defense then say...upping a whirb, bringing a fighter from another field, upping before the field is capped...mainly because it is the only thing in this game that takes away from any form of fighting from your opponent. And again...M3 having to go to the outside of town to drop supps is not fighting or hard...almost damn near impossible to kill if there are any other enemy fighters in the area.

[Chilli]

Simple answer for me.  Make all ground vehicles as easy to see  from the air as mine always seems to be.    

[Randy1]

So people don't get my point confused...My argument is that I understand M3 resupply is very effective for keeping fields, I believe it shouldn't be as rewarding to a base defense then say...upping a whirb, bringing a fighter from another field, upping before the field is capped...mainly because it is the only thing in this game that takes away from any form of fighting from your opponent. And again...M3 having to go to the outside of town to drop supps is not fighting or hard...almost damn near impossible to kill if there are any other enemy fighters in the area.

I capture more bases than 90% of the people in the game I would guess.  Many, many, times I have had one plane or GV stop several of us green players dead cold.

This M3 thing killing combat is just way over stated.

[caldera]

Carrying troops or supplies is all about being sneaky and hiding.  The shooting/hiding ratio needs to be 90/10 or better.  Right now, I'd say it's more like 70/30.

[Lusche]

I capture more bases than 90% of the people in the game I would guess. 

Last tour, you captured more bases than 98.89% 

[bustr]

The map room object in the town probably has a range ring that describes the maximum distance from the map room supplies will rebuild the town objects. See if Hitech will reduce the ring so the maximum distance is on the inside of the barrier hills around the town. Troops maximum range for dropping is probably tied to that. It will probably slow down base captures and resupply by M3 perceptibly. But, chances are the M3 fans will take it as a challenge and not a reason to get in a plane or wirble.

[Randy1]

Last tour, you captured more bases than 98.89% 

Thanks Lusche for digging that up.

That should give me a bit of credibility in this one discussion.

[bangsbox]

I love that friendly GVs are visible on map. Its really the only way currently to figure out where the GV fight is. In the old days you would have to ask on country!
 I would like to see some sort of enemy GV dar bar or perhaps spotted enemy GVs show up on the map like friendlies (for a short time or what every works best).
Even with friendly GVs on the map i still dont often find GV battles. Its not until someone calls out on country "X# of GVs heading to field..," that I know my spawn and drive will see action.

[1stpar3]

Spotted gvs showup on for a time? WELL, that would up my hate mail alot The only real frustration I run into,is the random Gv flashing a town that is parked and AFK for hours Sure I get killed by ostis and wirbs while searching for a tank, sometimes. Others they shootr and give away their position,oops...hope you like explosions! I sure do

[redcatcherb412]

Stopped many a base take with one Spitfire and 2 250# bombs

Now THIS ^ I can personally vouch for 1stpar3   

[Randy1]

Lusche, does M3 kills show anything interesting in your data base?    The great majority of kills in a M3 are from planes diving into the ground trying to kill an M3 and proxies I would guess.