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Offline 68Wooley

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Case Blue Setup
« on: July 03, 2017, 03:50:39 PM »
So the Lancers have CiC duty for the Allies in frame one. Looking through the objectives, I have 11 squads to work with. From that, I need to launch a minimum of 70 players in 6 different air-frames. My minimum commitment is 88 players (and this being a holiday week, I'm fully expecting to be at or below minimum commitments).

Can I suggest that set-ups that have six aircraft with minimum commitments is too much for the current level of FSO participation. CiCs are basically assigning squads to meet the required commitments rather than any thought of tactical or strategic thinking. Squads are being split into two airframes (which I hate doing) and someone, somewhere is going to end up with no escort because they get the "minimum of x players in bomber A with remainder as escort in fighter B" order and don't have more than x players.

In fairness, the Axis CiC has the same problems.

I'm thinking that an unfortunate side-effect of the reduced participation is we can't have such complex plane-set requirements. Anyone have thoughts on this?

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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 04:59:18 PM »
I think that it is a good question Wooley and worth discussion.
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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 05:55:18 PM »
By the bare bones of the write-up, you only need 60 players to meet the requirements for all the planes. You really should not have much of a problem meeting the 10 pilot per type and having a reasonable structure to make a battle plan with. I doubt that you want to push the max on any of the bombers.

Sometimes splitting squads into 2 plane types is necessary. Just make your job simple and tell each individual squad how many of their primary type to take at minimum and what exactly what to do when they meet that number.
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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 06:45:09 PM »
By the bare bones of the write-up, you only need 60 players to meet the requirements for all the planes. You really should not have much of a problem meeting the 10 pilot per type and having a reasonable structure to make a battle plan with. I doubt that you want to push the max on any of the bombers.

Sometimes splitting squads into 2 plane types is necessary. Just make your job simple and tell each individual squad how many of their primary type to take at minimum and what exactly what to do when they meet that number.

6 plane types, one of which has a 20 pilot minimum, makes 70 players against a minimum commitment of 86 players. I'm familiar enough with writing orders to know how to split a squad - I just don't like doing it.

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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2017, 07:28:10 AM »
Wooley, you are absolutely correct in your assessment however you will not gain much traction. The attitude here is love it or leave it.

FSO should model single engagements with minimum numbers of plane types involved but the armchair generals here imagine they are commanding vast air forces and making global strategic decisions.


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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2017, 02:28:42 PM »
Wooley..

Valid points. 

Ya know.. and I propose this somewhat tongue in cheek, but this would address some other issues we've seen..

Limit plane types to 3 per side and each squad must be assigned a different ride for each frame. 

Not a perfect solution, but it might make for some interesting battles. 1/3 defending, 1/3 escorting, 1/3 bombing

And, of course, this doesn't have to apply to EVERY FSO.  Maybe 1 or 2 where the plane matchups make sense.

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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2017, 03:35:19 PM »
Wooley, you are absolutely correct in your assessment however you will not gain much traction. The attitude here is love it or leave it.

FSO should model single engagements with minimum numbers of plane types involved but the armchair generals here imagine they are commanding vast air forces and making global strategic decisions.

Your approach highlights your
ignorance.
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Re: Case Blue Setup
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2017, 08:16:38 PM »
Wooley, you are absolutely correct in your assessment however you will not gain much traction. The attitude here is love it or leave it.

FSO should model single engagements with minimum numbers of plane types involved but the armchair generals here imagine they are commanding vast air forces and making global strategic decisions.

well if that's the case, when do we get B52's so I can bomb the snot out of north korea?